Day by Day We Lose our Freedom in America

It was ugly to begin with. We're all such a vainglorious bunch of spoiled brats that we positively refuse to see any benefit to the greater good if it interferes at all in what we consider 'our rights'.

Growing up in Texas I can assure you that there were several sporting events that I wish had similar rules. Especially when parents get drunk and beat up on the ref, each other, their wives. . . . NO part of that is good for the kids to see.

If controlling the ridiculous bullshit that Americans label as 'freedoms' and 'liberties' means you have to wait 2 hours to finish your latte . . . I'll tune up the world's smallest violin for you.

they sell coffee at the game, and the proceeds benefit the school.

maybe you should bring it up with the collective at the next school board meeting...

Really??? Because from my perspective, even if a person is in the wrong, it is better to strike out at injustice and suffer the consequences later that to sit on ones ass and watch officials of any sort use their official positions without regard to justice, just because they expect to get away with it... People take the law for granted, but they are the law, and law without justice is not law at all... So let idiots beat up on refs once in a while, and let refs get their eyes checked as well... If some gorilla tells me I made a bad call, I am not going to tell him to grab his bananna and sit down... Little pipsqueeks like my kid run the law because it tends to make the geeks the equals of the goons... The problem is that some times the goons and gorillas are right and the geeks are using their positions to serve themselves and the rest of geekdom without civil due regard... Every once in a while, the gorillas have to string up a few geeks to teach the geeks that law exists to deliver justice, and that anyone calling them as they see them ought to share the majority point of view, at least...

There is no law stating that you have the right to drink a latte at a sanctioned sporting event. There ARE, however, quite a few laws involving drunk and disorderly conduct and for good reason.

your spelling is as bad as your reasoning now...

It was ugly to begin with. We're all such a vainglorious bunch of spoiled brats that we positively refuse
to see any benefit to the greater good if it interferes at all in what we consider 'our rights'.

Fido wrote:

Really??? Because from my perspective, even if a person is in the wrong, it is better to strike out at injustice and suffer the consequences later that to sit on ones ass and watch officials of any sort use their official positions without regard to justice, just because they expect to get away with it... People take the law for granted, but they are the law, and law without justice is not law at all... So let idiots beat up on refs once in a while, and let refs get their eyes checked as well... If some gorilla tells me I made a bad call, I am not going to tell him to grab his bananna and sit down... Little pipsqueeks like my kid run the law because it tends to make the geeks the equals of the goons... The problem is that some times the goons and gorillas are right and the geeks are using their positions to serve themselves and the rest of geekdom without civil due regard... Every once in a while, the gorillas have to string up a few geeks to teach the geeks that law exists to deliver justice, and that anyone calling them as they see them ought to share the majority point of view, at least...

There is no law stating that you have the right to drink a latte at a sanctioned sporting event. There ARE, however, quite a few laws involving drunk and disorderly conduct and for good reason. If 'some gorilla' shows up with a coffee cup full of vodka and gets hammered, belligerent, and abusive to those sitting around him, he takes away THEIR liberties.

And that's what burns me. Put 10 people in a room, 9 of whom have emphysema and one that's a chain smoker and tell them there's no smoking. . . the one chain-smoker will go apeshit, screaming and beating his chest about his rights and privileges and not for one damn minute think about the other 9 people in the room.

THAT's where unrestrained 'freedom' gets you. It's turned us into a country of enablers. And then we have the audacity to be shocked when kids like Bamwhatever show up on a2k wanting to call CPS on his mom for scolding him in a McDonalds.

Questioner wrote:

It was ugly to begin with. We're all such a vainglorious bunch of spoiled brats that we positively refuse
to see any benefit to the greater good if it interferes at all in what we consider 'our rights'.

Let the record show that MY allegiance
is to personal freedom and to the rights of the Individual.
Let the "greater good" be damned.





DavidDavid; It is out of individual good that the greater good comes... People should be free, and if they are not finally free in their person's, and in their bodies, to do with themselves, and go themselves where they will then they are not free... It may become necessary for the many to set restrictions on the few... If a few and the majority of them decide to sell themselves into slavery for some short term gain to them, then they leave only the rest to defend their freedom along with the property and lives of the rest... It is fair for the many to demand of the few that they remain free and able to mount a defense of their rights...

If you cannot get what I am saying, let me restate... It is within the rights of the many to damand of their fellow citizens that they remain free, and uphold the obligations of freedom... It is never within the rights or powers of any majority of any size to limit the freedom of the individual to do himself good, or do good to society unless for some good reason, such as an injury to the whole people as that is beyond freedom or acceptablilty....

this is exactly why i didn't have kids, so i wouldn't have to waste my time at sporting events

There are already laws against being drunk and dis-orderly... The people need no greater protection than that

Too bad that most of those people who hate kids already have them...