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OBAMA ADMINISTRATION Sends Guns To Mexico

 
 
Reply Thu 29 Sep, 2011 09:56 pm

New York Post
September 28, 2011

By Michael A. Walsh

This just might be the smoking gun we’ve been waiting for to break
the festering “Fast and Furious” gun-running scandal wide open:
the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
apparently ordered one of its own agents to purchase firearms
with taxpayer money, and sell them directly to a Mexican drug cartel.

Let that sink in:
After months of pretending that “Fast and Furious” was a botched
surveillance operation of illegal gun-running spearheaded by the
ATF and the US attorney’s office in Phoenix, it turns out that the
government itself was selling guns to the bad guys.

Agent John Dodson was ordered to buy four Draco pistols for cash
and even got a letter from his supervisor, David Voth, authorizing a
federally licensed gun dealer to sell him the guns without bothering
about the necessary paperwork.

“Please accept this letter in lieu of completing an ATF Form 4473
for the purchase of four (4) CAI, Model Draco, 7.62x39 mm pistols,
by Special Agent John Dodson,” read the June 1, 2010, letter.
“These aforementioned pistols will be used by Special Agent Dodson
in furtherance of performance of his official duties.”

On orders, Dodson then sold the guns to known criminals, who first
stashed them away and then -- deliberately unhindered by the ATF
or any other agency -- whisked them off to Mexico.

People were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, including at least
two American agents and hundreds of Mexicans and the taxpayers
picked up the bill.


So where’s the outrage?
There’s none from the feds. Attorney General Eric Holder has
consistently stonewalled Rep. Darrell Issa, Sen. Chuck Grassley
and other congressional investigators.

In a constantly evolving set of lies, Holder has denied knowing anything
about Fast and Furious while at the same time withholding
documents from the House and Senate committees looking into
the mess while muzzling some witnesses and transferring others.

Justice calls the allegations about Dodson’s operation “false” but Grassley
says that’s “a lie,” as he told Greta van Susteren the other day.
“The ATF ordered this ATF agent to purchase these guns and in turn sell
them, and supposedly track them,” he said “but he was a lone wolf in
the operation -- they wouldn’t give him any help for 24-hour surveillance.”

So now the wheels have come off the official explanation for Fast
and Furious. Of course, that explanation never made much sense
in the first place.

For one thing, the ATF had no authority to track the guns once they
were in Mexico; for another, nobody bothered to inform the Mexicans
of this intrusion on their national sovereignty.

Further, we now know that a host of federal agencies (including the ATF,
the FBI and IRS, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Drug
Enforcement Administration and, very probably, top officials at the
Department of Homeland Security) were all in the loop at various levels,
as was the White House.

So calling “Fast and Furious” a cockamamie operation gone wrong
just isn’t going to cut it anymore.

There are two possible explanations. The first is that the anti-gun
Obama administration deliberately wanted American guns planted
in Mexico in order to demonize American firearms dealers and gun owners.
The operation was manufacturing “evidence” for the president’s
false claim that we’re to blame for the appalling levels of Mexican
drug-war violence.

If this is true, then Holder & Co. have got to go -- and the trail
needs to be followed no matter where it leads. For the federal
government to seek to frame its own citizens is unconscionable.
A second notion is that the CIA was behind the whole thing, which
accounts for all the desperate wagon-circling. Under this theory,
the Agency feared the los Zetas drug cartel was becoming too
powerful and might even mount a coup against the Mexican
government. So some 2,000 weapons costing more than $1,250,000
were deliberately channeled to the rival Sinaloa cartel, which operates
along the American border, to keep the Zetas in check.

Of course, there’s a third explanation -- that both scenarios are true,
and that those in charge of Fast and Furious saw an opportunity to
shoot two birds with one Romanian-made AK Draco pistol.

Time for a special prosecutor, who’s both fast and furious.



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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 29 Sep, 2011 10:52 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Have there been other threads on the topic of this scandal?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 29 Sep, 2011 10:58 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
not that I know of
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 29 Sep, 2011 11:09 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I wonder why that it?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 29 Sep, 2011 11:20 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
I wonder why that it?
I can 't imagine; we KNOW how the liberals wanna get at the truth.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 28 Dec, 2012 04:08 pm
@OmSigDAVID,

I think it is time for Republicans to step up hearings on Fast & Furious.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:14 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
it turns out that the
government itself was selling guns to the bad guys.


This is news??!! The US has always sold guns to the bad guys.

Quote:
People were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, including at least
two American agents and hundreds of Mexicans and the taxpayers
picked up the bill.


What's he whining about, a mere couple of hundred people? note that the number of Americans is always given top billing, the rest, a wild guesstimate is always enough.

But the US is up there in the 10 millions of dead where the US taxpayer has had to pick up the bill. Really what the hell is he whining about?
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:19 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I can 't imagine; we KNOW how the liberals wanna get at the truth.


Hilarious! Two of the guys at A2K that are the least interested in addressing the truth commiserating about others who would avoid the truth.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:26 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
For the federal government to seek to frame its own citizens is unconscionable.


Gee, do you think they might be talking about the Joe McCarthy scandal wherein you have bragged about proudly helping to do just that, OmSigDave, frame citizens of the US.

Why weren't you either disbarred for that or refused entry into law school. Remember, that is unconscionable.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:27 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Really what the hell is he whining about?


It isn't exactly whining. This scandal is a great way of keeping the Obama Administration on the defensive when it comes to gun control.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 10:52 pm
@oralloy,
Yes, it is exactly whining, typical American whining about the great injustices done to it, when, if there was a scintilla of honesty, these types of assholes would be describing the horrors the US governments have heaped upon civilian populations the world over.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 11:07 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Yes, it is exactly whining, typical American whining about the great injustices done to it, when, if there was a scintilla of honesty, these types of assholes would be describing the horrors the US governments have heaped upon civilian populations the world over.


No. No one is complaining about imagined injustices.

The point is to drag Obama Administration officials in front of Congress to testify under oath. Get them so focused on dealing with this scandal that they have no energy to do anything else.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 11:26 pm
As it happens, JTT is right about most of the things past US administrations have done. They're not imagined.

Don't bet on Fast and Furious tieing the admin down. The people of the US are exasperated with the obstinacy you gun zealots display and the people who die as a result. More sensible gun control is coming (and a far more tightly-written and inclusive assault weapons ban too). The NRA is so 20th-century.
nothingtodo
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 11:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Bom bom, bom bom, baaaaaaawm!

News just in.

"WHOLE WORLD TO BLAME FOR THE ONE GUY.. PLUS ASSOCIATE/S!"

Although he had clearly been living in blame and fear, with worry, he still knew absolutely nothing about it!

So we must all know or else we were wrong to assume he did not know!
We are now heros!
We can die calmly!

Stay tuned for news about farking Pandas!
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 11:30 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
As it happens, JTT is right about most of the things past US administrations have done. They're not imagined.


Why has it taken you this long to reach out and grab a fistful of honesty, Jack?
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 11:35 pm
I've said it a couple of times before. Idiot.
nothingtodo
 
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Reply Sat 29 Dec, 2012 11:39 pm
@MontereyJack,
In which world?

The one in a box, or the one in your head only?

I really enjoy it when you use the word idiot, in counter retaliation so .... singularly. It gives me a nice long stare of blank misery .. Your way.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2012 12:23 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
More sensible gun control is coming (and a far more tightly-written and inclusive assault weapons ban too). The NRA is so 20th-century.


You ignore the reality that the House Democrats have already backed away from an assault weapons ban, and are going to try for magazine limits only.

Not to mention the fact that it would be a slam dunk that the courts would strike it down if it passed.

And lets step up the hearings anyway. Just to see where it leads. Twisted Evil
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2012 07:15 am
I suggest you pay attention to Diane Feinstein. You're wrong. The courts won't strike it down. Assault weapons clearly fall under Scalia's concept of dangerous and unusual weapons in 18th century terms, which even he says can be regulatable. And you'll probably lose the fifth swing vote on this. I'd say you're in trouble.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 30 Dec, 2012 07:30 am
@MontereyJack,


Feinstein and her kind can suck it!
 

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