@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:The figures speak for themselves.
David wrote:because the English police have cooked the books
to make gun control look good
izzythepush wrote:Rubbish, NRA propaganda.
No, Pushy, its not NRA propaganda.
A few years ago, I attended the annual meeting of NRA
and an Englishman addressed us. (Not being American,
it seems unlikely that he was an NRA member.)
He told us of the newly retired London police official
who resented being coerced into altering earlier accounting
procedures to make gun control look good; for instance, subsequent
mass crimes at the same place with mulitple felonies
of various categories committed against multiple victims
were required to be counted as only
ONE crime.
I wish that I had recorded his name.
He offered us names and dates in his presentation,
but I was not taking notes.
izzythepush wrote:Nobody over here is complaining that police figures are cooked.
Really? I'm not sure about that.
Lemme go thru some English newspaper stories that I have
to see whether thay address that point or not. I 'm not sure.
I
DO remember that thay concern an upsurge in violent crime
in England, since your
more severe recent gun control.
izzythepush wrote:It's only in America where the figures blow the NRAs claims out of the water
WHICH "claims" are those, Mr. Push???
izzythepush wrote:that people make up such mad bollocks.
I don 't know what bollocks are,
but note that NRA people in America are
not mad
since the US Supreme Court vindicated the NRA position
qua defensive freedom in the
HELLER case in 2OO8.
On the
CONTRARY, we are
VERY HAPPY!!!!!
JUBILANT!
Admittedly, some of us were kind of mad about getting screwed
out of our 2nd Amendment rights
BEFORE the
HELLER decision was issued, but not any more.
izzythepush wrote:Why don't you tell us the name of your source and post a link to his page?
I 'll see if I can dig it out by research; there is a chance.
izzythepush wrote:I think it's because he's fictional.
What u think has no (retroactive) effect upon the fact of the matter.
David