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Are atheists being more illogical than agnostics?

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JimmyJ
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 06:31 pm
@Herald,
Well, Christmas is just a holiday that the Christians stole from the Pagans. That means Christians shouldn't celebrate it.
Germlat
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 06:36 pm
@JimmyJ,
I'll take any reason to make winter more pleasant..so what?!
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Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 06:37 pm
@JimmyJ,
JimmyJ wrote:

They have a 13th man as well: PED's


The do have a Henway, but what is a PED?
Romeo Fabulini
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 06:41 pm
Quote:
JimmyJ said: Christmas is just a holiday that the Christians stole from the Pagans

Christmas is Jesus's birthday, so if Pagans used to celebrate it, good for them..Smile
JimmyJ
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 06:42 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Performance enhancing drug
JimmyJ
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 06:42 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
You think Jesus was born on Christmas?

lol
Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 06:44 pm
@JimmyJ,
JimmyJ wrote:

Performance enhancing drug


Oh! Then the Seahawks have 13 men!
Germlat
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 06:47 pm
@JimmyJ,
Actually such a selected time for numerous deities..why is that? I find this interesting.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 07:15 pm
Quote:
JimmyJ said: You think Jesus was born on Christmas? lol

Yes mate, the 3 Wise Men even brought him presents..Smile
THREE WISE MEN: "Greetings Mary and Joseph, we bring gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh for your blessed baby"
JOSEPH- "We'll keep the gold but he don't want that other krap, can't you nip out and get him a playstation or something instead?"
Germlat
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 07:24 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Dude..your making me crack up!
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neologist
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 09:46 pm
@farmerman,
Once around the Saturnalia bush and pop a cool one for me, farmer. I celebrate the fact of my grandkids winter break. Folks can keep right on giving the time off.

But drive carefully, OK? And watch out for Jimmy. No license yet.
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neologist
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 09:49 pm
@JimmyJ,
JimmyJ wrote:
Well, Christmas is just a holiday that the Christians stole from the Pagans. That means Christians shouldn't celebrate it.
Well. You do have a point. But what shall we do with the day off?

Heh heh . . . . .
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neologist
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 09:51 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Christmas is Jesus's birthday, so if Pagans used to celebrate it, good for them..Smile
You really believe that?
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neologist
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 09:52 pm
@Frank Apisa,
JimmyJ wrote:
Performance enhancing drug
Frank Apisa wrote:

Oh! Then the Seahawks have 13 men!

Hey!
Personal fowl!
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neologist
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 09:55 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Jimmyj wrote:
You think Jesus was born on Christmas? lol
Romeo Fabulini wrote:
Yes mate, the 3 Wise Men even brought him presents..Smile
THREE WISE MEN: "Greetings Mary and Joseph, we bring gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh for your blessed baby"
JOSEPH- "We'll keep the gold but he don't want that other krap, can't you nip out and get him a playstation or something instead?"
Doh! Wise men brought 3 presents. Number of astrologers not known.
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Herald
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 11:13 pm
@JimmyJ,
JimmyJ wrote:
Well, Christmas is just a holiday that the Christians stole from the Pagans.

Christmas is the annual commemoration of the birth of Jesus Christ (34 B.C.). Can you give some examples of pagans celebrating Christmas before that date?
further wrote:
That means Christians shouldn't celebrate it.

I didn't have in mind that atheists (and agnostics) do not have the right to celebrate Christmas. Everybody is free to celebrate whatever he likes. I was just asking 'What do the atheists celebrate on Christmas' - in particular, and what we are all 'Christians & Non-Christians' celebrating on Christmas - in the general case.
The atheists claim that universe is based on chaos and lack of intelligible pattern ... and by seeing what is going on on the planet right now this assumption is not entirely to be excluded.
neologist
 
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Thu 26 Dec, 2013 11:31 pm
@Herald,
Herald wrote:
Christmas is the annual commemoration of the birth of Jesus Christ (34 B.C.). Can you give some examples of pagans celebrating Christmas before that date?
Early Christians did not celebrate Jesus' birth. 4th Century Roman leaders co-opted the feast of the Saturnalia as a way of appeasing the masses and creating christian 'converts'.
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JimmyJ
 
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Fri 27 Dec, 2013 12:23 am
@Herald,
Quote:
Christmas is the annual commemoration of the birth of Jesus Christ (34 B.C.). Can you give some examples of pagans celebrating Christmas before that date?


Google "origins of christmas" or "Saturnalia".

This is something you could have investigated for yourself..
Setanta
 
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Fri 27 Dec, 2013 01:28 am
Herald believes that the putative Jesus was born in "34 B.C.?" Somehow i'm not really surprised.
cicerone imposter
 
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Fri 27 Dec, 2013 01:51 am
@Setanta,
That's very funny! 34BC for the birth of christ.

What's more interesting is that BC/AD was established more then 500 years after the christ epoch. How they managed to count backwards beginning with 1BC must have been quite a feat in those days, since numbers were virtually unknown.
 

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