what is life?

@shanemcd3,

Necessity is good enough for purpose and meaning...how easy then that could it be ? what other creeping purpose were you waiting for "merry Christmas" ?

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@Fil Albuquerque,

is anything necessary, though?
think about it. right?

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@shanemcd3,

shanemcd3 wrote:

and historically, although most people would say that the meaning of life is the great philosophical question, most philosophers don't regard it as such, in fact most have steered well clear of it, because it's based on a false premise, that life has a meaning

well, in that case, to know what the meaning is, you need to know what the OBJECT IN QUESTION IS. this is the question that makes the great question possible. can you imagine not knowing what you are asking about the meaning of something, with out knowing or having an idea about it?

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@hamilton,

hell...EVERYTHING is necessary ! (at least around this universe as it is...and them all as they are...)

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@Fil Albuquerque,

if everything is necessary, then what's it necessary for?

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@hamilton,

...thankfully someone around here understands how functions operate ! Very Happy

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@Fil Albuquerque,

well what IS everything necassary for?
thank you. Smile

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@hamilton,

...necessity is a temporal question form...everything it is not...it just is !
,...from there how much more necessary does necessity needs to be ?

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@Fil Albuquerque,

infinitely!

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@Fil Albuquerque,

The holder here is everything not necessity...

...because everything therefore necessity !
...necessity is bind on the absolute absoluteness of everything !

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@hamilton,

Infinity's are not true infinity's, they are circular infinity's, loops...they are the proof of necessity itself...they don´t point to out but to in !

"Thingness" itself apply s only to the Whole...necessity is in it not out of it !

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@Fil Albuquerque,

that makes sense...

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@hamilton,

...actually this is the kind of stuff that should be explained to that idiot, that ignoramus technocrat William Lane Craig when he points to God...is just basic mathematics...

...assuming there was any something that we like to call "god" we could never set it apart from "creation" for the very basic reason that the sum of "creation" and "god" would always be bigger then any of them separately !
(therefore god would n´t be god)

...the only logical conception of god is everything and it is not about a personal one !...

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@hamilton,

Without understanding the origin of life one cannot adequately say ‘What is life’ and also what we are really interested in is the question ‘Why is there life’ i.e. what makes a material system an organism and not something else?

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@Fil Albuquerque,

...what I dread is that the so called leaders in the field did get their asses kicked by that idiotic little man !

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@igm,

...what other then "material system" something else are you talking about ???
...you rather should first be questioning what "material" actually means !

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@Fil Albuquerque,

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

...what other then "material system" something else are you talking about ???
...you rather should first be questioning what "material" actually means !

The organism is said to display the characteristics of life whereas e.g. a virus is not. Yet they are both composed of atoms and molecules and function as a system but what is missing? Why is an organism alive but a virus not?

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@igm,

That is a matter of definition upon functions to what we in good reason access to the meaning of life...a matter of aesthetics...fashion like tendency's... Laughing

(precisely the reason why it is a Philosophical issue after all)

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@Fil Albuquerque,

...now before all that we have to go way back...

...And basically this is why people should be more careful and literate before attacking philosophy...
(it makes me laugh they simply have no idea on what they are talking about)

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@Fil Albuquerque,

I started a thread elsewhere:

igm wrote:

If a rice seed causes a rice shoot please explain does the seed appear at the same time as the shoot or not at the same time as the shoot?

If the rice seed is not the cause of the rice shoot what is the cause of the rice shoot?

If the rice seed is the rice shoot explain how it is the same thing?

Basically one won't find a shoot without a prior seed but one can't explain how the seed could cause that shoot. In fact it doesn’t seem possible that the seed could cause the shoot. Yet without that seed there will be no shoot.

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