What change would YOU like to see?

In the bell curve, very few are idiots, but only few are genius... We can only do what we can see to do, and when a change is required, since we can change little of ourselves we must change our forms... The problem is that people grow up with their forms, like culture, for an example, and they cannot see the thing they most need to change...

Forms resist change to the point where people believe they do not change, and that people adapt to their forms intead of changing them... The fact is, that changing forms is the progress of humanity, and that people trapped in their forms, unable to see them, unable to change them, are destroyed by them...

It was not simply Greek and Roman societies that were destroyed but the people in them who went and died, leaving no one to live in their places... Their lives, their goods, their dreams, their conquests simply lost meaning to them, and the people who did not die at the point of a sword simply gave up and refused to breed... The Greeks Routinely exposed their Daughters, and the Romans practiced Abortions, which was simply taking a great amount of poison... When they could make their way in no other, they sold their daughters to be whores, and crushed the nuts of their boys and made them Eunichs... But they could not see through their forms, their traditions, their culture to a better form of society beyond... They prefered social suicide... And they got it.. Even the Christians who had a better form negated life in the extreme...Celibacy was the highest virtue right next to filthiness, since the first thing they did was close the public baths... It was left to barbarians to spread the faith while those who first got it lost themselves in monastacism...

To change anything essential is to develop formal consciousness... It is not really a matter of intelligence... People need to learn where to look, and what to see when they are looking... Forms are all but invisible because we are so used to them...

Gun control shoud be ended.
The right of each citizen to bear arms at all times shoud be respected,
thus restoring the status quo ante.

People (sane or not) who have proven by their histories of criminal violence
to be intolerably dangerous shoud be permanently ISOLATED.





David

****!! The dead weight of a gun ought to be the obligation of every free person... Who should pay taxes to support a military that has never supported our rights, and that has slaughtered the children of this nation on every battle field it has chosen when the best democracy and the best defense of liberty is everyone with a gun???...

No actually im not to familiar with the bell curve...will have to google it. Never considered trusting anyone due to amount of people with thier heads shoved so far up their ass...hard to when everyone is out for themselves what happened to being nice...helping people...and being helped....hmm oh wait i know the portion of what i call unreasonable people ruined that made everyone not trust and made everyone paranoid but hey thats what makes us human right back in the old days wasnt wealth that let you live it was strength and the honor to know the difference....my huge change would be a restoration of honor...

Go to the head of the class... Just remember that where money is dear, honor is cheap..

Hah, I have a theory on that, where a number of things have contributed to this situation :

- parents of recent generations were brainwashed to think that children are little adults, and parents are their best friends...respectively leading to parents not spending time explaining how the world work and why manners are necessary to children (because hey they are little adults and can figure it out for themselves), and being their best friends lead them to supporting their children when society tried to hold the children to account for the manners that their parents never taught them - the parents then come to their defense...thereby teaching them that it's alright (and that no one else can correct their behaviour). Of course this plays out in many different other ways too.

-too many parents are in the habit of 'giving my child everything he/she needs' and doing everything for their child...leading to a sense of 'it's all about me'

- schools (and parents to a degree) teach children that they have all these rights, but no obligations (esentially that they have no boundaries). This leads children to test the boundaries (because all children actually want trustworthy boundaries). The other effect of having all rights and no obligations is a sense of 'it's all about me'

- Civil Libertarians fight hard for the rights of the individual (read 'criminals') but there is no similar organisation championing the rights of society. This lends to a very individualistic view of society (so social obligation / friendliness to strangers etc fails)

- Papers prey on fear. Law stats show that pedophilia is no more prevelant today than in years gone by, but there is a great deal more fear of them today than in years gone by. Leading to a distrust of strangers, a distrust of male teachers in Primary school (so removing a major male role model). Papers also prey on Law Enforcement blunders - demonising law enforcement sells papers...feel good stories rarely do. So the very people (and yes, the organisation consists of people) that try to help are demonised.

-Civil courts encourage it because you can be sued for anything. If you try to help an injured person and botch it, you can almost guarantee you are going to be sued. If you are a volunteer in an organisation, you can be sued if something goes wrong. If you are a doctor and make a mistake, you can be sued. In fact - in almost any sector, whether you are a volunteer or a professional trying to help people, you can be sued. People today think it is there right and 'insurance will cover it'...but the suits involve attacking flesh and blood people, and blaming those that try to help ....so it encourages people to 'look out for number one' and to 'not get involved'.

-Governments I think, don't put a stop to the civil suits because it suits them to have 'individualistic' minded people who are 'out for number 1' rather than 'society minded' people. Society minded people are a lot harder to convince (read 'buy/persuade') than individualist people (the individualist only has to consider him/herself, not other people).

-Governments, or more accurately Elected Members, having created a system of 'buying' votes, have then created a society that believes the government should sort out their every problem by throwing money at it. This had lead to a sense of being 'priveleged' where 'everyone else should sort out any problem I have'

...and having not sorted out their own problems, when others call them to account, they are angry because 'someone should have sorted this out for me a long time ago'. Why would anyone want to get involved with a person like that?

That of course, is a very short circuited version, but you probably get the idea.

Damn vikor i leave for a few days and you write an essay heh i agree though there are multiple factors involved which brings about the oldest argument to man....nurture over nature...if only common sense dictated the rules...

sad part is even a serial killer can have some honor...even if its a brand of his own honor. its still there, honor doesnt die it just hides really well when everything goes to ****.

I doubt it... Honor is a form of relationship with society, and that is missing from serial killers... What we take for granted in the honor of our fellow citizens can be imitated by those with no honor...

Hey even bad men love thier mommas. though its hard to believe now a days people in general have the choice society or no society to recognize honor and im not talking sociketies honor....individual honor the respect that is due and the respect given to each man and woman comes a choice who are you to tell them different, we are a generation raised on money where loyalty not honor is cheap...honor has its own rules and are built by each person who lives by them...not society and its filth in politics and arguing over what to do about money....except most of em want it in thier pockets which once again loyalty is cheap...

honor is the strength of someone's morals and ethics.

True but its also more for some ...its a way of life.

and death, unfortunately.

"Game of Thrones" is very much about that...

true but everybody dies and we all have to do what needs done regardless of the situation or consequences we all have a fight and i for one will have to see my end through just like everyone else though now its hard to see in the fog overpopulation has covered us with....Just for a second if we could make that are benefit instead of burden 6.9 billion people could accomplish a whole lot if you focus everyone into the same direction anything could be done...instead we worry about what this one celebrity is doing and we worry about what their next episode of dexter will be...that is pointless what happened to people wanting to make their own mark build fight the good fight make earth be what it should and just like early civilization who set sail and discovered the new world we set sail and fly into the ocean we call space find a way to manipulate the earth around us and the space around it...imagine that and try to hope that one day the future could look up and see the great accomplishment of the 21st century.

thats the thing. people ask for things to change, to be done, and such.
what needs to be done?

The unification of mankind.....would be awe inspiring...the restoration of honor to people and the distruction of society.

Honor is the social expression of morals... There are a lot of people who are honored by the dishonorable... What can anyone do with a demoralized people???... They are bound to be destroyed because self destruction is their primary purpose... And for that they should be honored... Isn't that why we honor the Greeks and the Romans??? When no one was able to destroy them they destroyed themselves, and the world is full of gratitude.

What will get done without honor and virtue??? No other sort has the courage to stand and fight, or harder still, to labor through ones life for a better understanding and a greater good... Virtue is essential to freedom... Okay, if you are neither virtuous nor free all you will ever do is go along and be a witness to your own demise...

I for one do not honor the greek and roman societies for self destruction i honor them for the progress they made to highten the technologies and granduer they gave people and for the single focus...mainly the romans...to bring everyone under the same understanding they tried to force something that should have been everyones human borne choice...not a bad way to do it but to early in this worlds growth. if it were to happen now not using war but peace and unification we would out work the romans into our own history books to pass on to future generations...