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Did Waterboarding lead to the death of Osama?

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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 05:49 pm
@izzythepush,
Thanks for the compliment, it made my day. I love it when I get inside the head of little dweebs like you.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 05:50 pm
@JTT,
So Obama is a war criminal. When are you going to go after the President who ordered the killing?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 05:52 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Now that's funny........."A political assassination". Seeing as how that is against international law, does that make Obungo a war criminal?

How do you know he felt no pain? There was no autopsy. Are you channeling the events?


I don't know who Obungo is, but people shot in the head at close range twice rarely feel much pain - and if any, it certainly doesn't last more than a second or two.

Okay, I'm done lowering myself for today; return to your regularly scheduled self-immolation, you total ******* tool.

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 05:57 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
So in 2004 the American people voted for a war criminal for President.


You act surprised like this has never happened before. And for Reagan's second term and Nixon's second term, ... .
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 06:09 pm
@parados,
L is for your mental Lentitude.
O is for your Obliquity.
S is for your Sanguisugent lifestyle.
E is for your very public Ebriection.
R is for your rhypophagic method of gathering information .

LOSER.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 06:38 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
The simple fact of the matter is that there is no evidence that torture lead to the killing of OBL.

Who's saying torture lead to his death? The suggestion is that waterboarding did.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 06:40 pm
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
The simple fact of the matter is that there is no evidence that torture lead to the killing of OBL.

Who's saying torture lead to his death? The suggestion is that waterboarding did.


You're cute when you try to be funny. But, just to be clear: there is no evidence that waterboarding lead to the killing of OBL.

Cycloptichorn
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 06:45 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Okay. Your President orders a political assassination and you don't think that makes him a war criminal. That's funny.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 06:48 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
No more waterboarding. If they don't talk we should just shoot them in the eyeball and call it a "political assassination". We have to keep the left happy.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 07:02 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Okay. Your President orders a political assassination and you don't think that makes him a war criminal. That's funny.


You don't have any knowledge about law and especially international law, correct, RD? (Besides the other gaps in your knowledge, I mean.)
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 07:28 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Tell me something Walter. If waterboarding a terrorist is torture, what do you call shooting an unarmed terrorist in the eyeball?
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 07:35 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
This has been explained to you a number of times.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 07:40 pm
@JTT,
I asked Walter. I like to get multiple opinions. Does freedom of speech bother you?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 07:41 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I do believe in a justice system like most democratic countries have.
Thus, you need a trial and a verdict.

Any information got by illegal methods can't be used in trials in those democratic countries.

Someone, who uses these illegal methods ... gets accused of it.


Killing an unarmed person is either manslaughter or murder.
Their may be laws which allow this under certain circumstances.

I don't know enough about the US criminal code to make a judgement here.
But I've never hidden that I dislike such and think it to be illegal.

Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:09 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I'm just getting your opinion. Thanks.

According to your values, do you believe Obama is a war criminal for ordering the killing of Osama Bin Laden?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:12 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:


According to your values, do you believe Obama is a war criminal for ordering the killing of Osama Bin Laden?


No. Because that isn't related to a war time at all. You must have had misread something the Hague Conventions and the London Charter ...

As said: your legal knowledge and especially that of international laws isn't the best, to put it mildly.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:18 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
If the killing of OBL is not war related, then how can President Obama order him killed?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:22 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
A war with what country?
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:32 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
One of us is confused. You said the killing of Osama was not war related. If the killing of OBL is not war related then how can the US Presidentn order him killed?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:35 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I don't think that I'm confused.

I'm certainly uneducated and don't write and speak English properly as you noted already earlier.

Thus, I kindly ask you again which war against what country you meant when you wrote "war crime".

And I've written above that I don't know enough about US-laws ... to answer the question, how the US president can do so.
 

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