Did Waterboarding lead to the death of Osama?

Here is what I think you really should do. When you see something you're not familiar with, do some research so you are more informed when you step into the ring.

Thanks.

You have not responded to the point about the NY Times and the Washington Post stating the enhanced interrogation techniques of the Bush administration led to the killing of Osama.

Why do you disagree with the NY Times and the Washington Post?

Senate Intel Chair: Torture Did Not Lead To Bin Laden In Any Way
Brian Beutler | May 3, 2011, 12:59PM

More and more evidence suggests a key piece of intelligence -- the first link in the chain of information that led U.S. intelligence officials to Osama bin Laden -- wasn't tortured out of its source. And, indeed, that torture actually failed to produce it.

"To the best of our knowledge, based on a look, none of it came as a result of harsh interrogation practices," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee in a wide-ranging press conference.

Moreover, Feinstein added, nothing about the sequence of events that culminated in Sunday's raid vindicates the Bush-era techniques, nor their use of black sites -- secret prisons, operated by the CIA.

"Absolutely not, I do not," Feinstein said. "I happen to know a good deal about how those interrogations were conducted, and in my view nothing justifies the kind of procedures that were used."

This is a mix of fresh, on-the-record information and push back against Republicans -- many of them former Bush administration officials -- who are tying themselves in knots to claim that Bush's interrogation policies got the ball rolling on the bin Laden killing.

"I would assume that the enhanced interrogation program that we put in place produced some of the results that led to bin Laden's ultimate capture," said former Vice President Dick Cheney on Fox News.

Here's Rep. Peter King (R-NY), chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, also on Fox: "We obtained that information through waterboarding. So for those who say that waterboarding doesn't work, who say it should be stopped and never used again, we got vital information which directly led us to bin Laden."

However, multiple reports preceding Feinstein's remarks suggest that waterboarding failed to produce the key piece of information -- bin Laden's courier's nom de guerre.

Feinstein went even further, claiming that change to U.S. intelligence processes ushered in by the Obama administration were seminal in capturing bin Laden.

"I think the red-teaming of the intelligence was significant, and they red-teamed and red-teamed and red-teamed. And of course what that means is they looked for reasons why what they had as a piece of intelligence might not be accurate, or might indicate something else," Feinstein said. "And that's a very good process -- it's a solid process -- because it exposes weaknesses in the intelligence.... It didn't happen over the Iraq National Intelligence Estimate."

Feinstein further claimed that the Obama administration's decision to reconstitute the CIA's bin Laden unit -- which the Bush administration shuttered in 2005 -- was a key factor in the mission's ultimate success. "I think it was very crucial," she said. "I mean this has been there for a substantial period of time. People become experienced with the intelligence."

Not all Republicans are claiming that bin Laden's killing vindicates torture. At a Capitol press conference Tuesday afternoon, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) stood apart from his colleagues in the GOP. "This idea we caught bin Laden because of waterboarding I think is a misstatement," he said. "This whole concept of how we caught bin Laden is a lot of work over time by different people and putting the puzzle together. I do not believe this is a time to celebrate waterboarding, I believe this is a time to celebrate hard work."

You forgot to reply to the one about the NY Times and the Washington Post.

You have not responded to the point about the NY Times and the Washington Post stating the enhanced interrogation techniques of the Bush administration led to the killing of Osama. Why do you disagree with the NY Times and the Washington Post?

"This idea we caught bin Laden because of waterboarding I think is a misstatement. This whole concept of how we caught bin Laden is a lot of work over time by different people and putting the puzzle together. I do not believe this is a time to celebrate waterboarding, I believe this is a time to celebrate hard work,"

Rumsfeld said new information that led to bin Laden’s killing, “very well could have been partly a result of the interviews that took place at Guantanamo.”

And, Rove said on Fox and Friends on Monday morning that Bush was the one who gave the CIA orders to get bin Laden, and Obama was using intelligence likely attained with enhanced, or harsh, interrogation techniques.

As Lindsey Graham said

Not all Republicans are claiming that bin Laden's killing vindicates torture. At a Capitol press conference Tuesday afternoon, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) stood apart from his colleagues in the GOP. "This idea we caught bin Laden because of waterboarding I think is a misstatement," he said. "This whole concept of how we caught bin Laden is a lot of work over time by different people and putting the puzzle together. I do not believe this is a time to celebrate waterboarding, I believe this is a time to celebrate hard work."

Now that's hilarious. Diane Feinstein. You totally blew that one, bub.

Why don't you just quote Rachel Maddow and Clem O'Donnell and Ed Schultz.

I'm not quoting politicians.

I'm talking about the NY Times and the Washington Post.

You've really stepped into it now.

When you get over your infatuation of quoting liberal political hacks for your info you might get something to work on.

This is pitiful and a sorry piece of work.

Frankly, I'm embarrassed to even be associated with posting of nonsense like this tripe.

Here ya go FA. Click on the link and follow the links in the article. If you can't handle that then have Walter help you.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110502/pl_dailycaller/didenhancedinterrogationleadustoosamabinladen

She's a political hack and misleading the American people on enhanced interrogation, and that is her agenda.

You believe her. I don't.

I believe the NY Times and the Washington Post.

I don't believe people like liberal democrats would tell me the truth.

You all lack honesty, integrity, and courage.

You and Feinstein have a couple things in commone.

You're both pathetic and liars.

Do you really expect me to believe you haven't read the articles in the NY Times and the WsPo?

Do you need a current administration official to approve everything you read?

How about the Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee? Would you trust their words?