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Did Waterboarding lead to the death of Osama?

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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 06:56 am
They shot the Osama in the face when he was unarmed and Eric Holder says it was legal. But Waterboard him or give him even a fat-lip and you get a court martial. With this Administration "morality" seems to float all over the place.

Gitmo and "torture" were said to be recruiting tools for terrorists. Gitmos is still open. I wonder if shooting their leader in the face while unarmed will be used to recruit? Naw. That would be common sense, and we all know the rabid left doesn't understand the meaning of the term.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:06 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
If you want to know more about shooting unarmed men in the face ask Dick Cheney, apparantly he's something of an expert.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:16 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
It's nice to see that you don't trust the judgment of Navy Seals Renaldo. Have you always hated the military?
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:19 am
@izzythepush,
So now a hunting accident is comparable to killing a terrorist. Welcome to la la land, folks.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:22 am
@parados,
Why do you speak out against torture and then you're fine when your CIC orders a terrorist killed by shooting him in the face while unarmed? No trial. That could have been a double and then your dear leader would have killed an innocent man. Why do you hate America?

That's the point and you have no answer for it. Kinda difficult when you're required to think instead of just spouting rhetoric.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:39 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
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Why do you speak out against torture and then you're fine when your CIC orders a terrorist killed by shooting him in the face while unarmed?

Hmm.. So Obama signed an order to shoot someone in the face?
Do you have a copy of that order?

Quote:

That's the point and you have no answer for it. Kinda difficult when you're required to think instead of just spouting rhetoric.

I have an answer for it...
You are the one spouting rhetoric. Your fallacious argument is still a fallacious argument. The President didn't order anyone shot in the face when unarmed. The Navy Seals made a judgment call in the midst of an attack. You don't seem to understand simple things Renaldo. You just want to twist everything around to try to be a big man when we all know you are a pimply faced little twit.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:40 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

So now a hunting accident is comparable to killing a terrorist. Welcome to la la land, folks.

Based on your claim about the Navy Seals and Obama ordering them to shoot an unarmed man in the face, it seems like Bush must have ordered Cheney to shoot someone in the face, and the guy was certainly armed.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:43 am
@parados,
Your President gave the order to kill Osama. Gitmo and waterboarding were used as recruiting tools. Does the killing of Osama by shooting him in the face while unarmed become a recruiting tool? If not, tell us why.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:44 am
@parados,
parados says

You are the one spouting rhetoric.

No he's not, he's the one spouting bollocks, and it's the most fluent bollocks I've ever heard.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:44 am
@parados,
Every time you edit my post for your reply makes you a loser. That's not debate. No one interrupts the speaker to reply to their point until they are done. I will only read the first part you answer to.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:50 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Every time you edit my post for your reply makes you a loser. That's not debate. No one interrupts the speaker to reply to their point until they are done. I will only read the first part you answer to.

ROFLMAO...


If I assumed you were done when you made a valid, logical and reasonably intelligent point, I would never respond to you.

Let me know when you are done because you certainly aren't leaving any clues....
parados
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:51 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Your President gave the order to kill Osama. Gitmo and waterboarding were used as recruiting tools. Does the killing of Osama by shooting him in the face while unarmed become a recruiting tool? If not, tell us why.

When did Obama order anyone shot in the face when unarmed? That was your claim Renaldo. Changing the subject doesn't change your claim.
Can you provide support for you claim?
Or are you as stupid as we all think you are?
parados
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:53 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Every time you edit my post for your reply makes you a loser. That's not debate. No one interrupts the speaker to reply to their point until they are done. I will only read the first part you answer to.


I guess you have never read any classic logic.
Normally, an argument is discussed point by point.

So..
Are you saying you are stupid when it comes to logic or are you saying you never make any points that are worthy of being addressed?
raprap
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:34 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
An idiot hunting Accident--in most states Dick Cheney would have had his hunting privileges suspended for life after that act of firearm negligence.

Apparently Texas is different, at least when is comes to Dick Cheney.

Rap
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raprap
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:40 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Bin Laden would till be alive only if he was naked.

Seal Team 6 was instructed to consider any clothing as potential camouflage for an explosive vest.

How many times does this have to be iterated boobie---do you have the memory of a goldfish?

Rap
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:45 am
@parados,
I'm saying when you edit my post to make your reply you are not going to get a reply from me to the rest of your post. This is supposed to be a debate. During a debate you don't interrupt the speaker whenever you want to make a point. You make your points when they are through speaking.

That is obviously too difficult for a few posters on this forum.
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:48 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
They shot the Osama in the face when he was unarmed and Eric Holder says it was legal.


Do you expect any less from those who engage in war crimes, mass murder, terrorism on a grand scale, Renaldo? As soon as anyone enters US government service on this level, they become a war criminal, terrorist or both.
raprap
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:52 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
And you don't? Boobie you have proliferated out of context quotes.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:59 am
@parados,
Oh, cut the crap. You know what I mean.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 09:00 am
@parados,
Obama gave the order to kill him. Doesn't matter who did it. The point is the point. Acting stupid only makes you look weaker than you already are.
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