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Did Waterboarding lead to the death of Osama?

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 11:41 am
@Joe Nation,
With all respect. What the **** does Jesus know about Christianity? It's clear today's modern, forward looking Christian has no need 0f that namby-pamby hippy. He's a freakin' socialist for Chrissakes!
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 11:42 am
@Joe Nation,
No I haven't. I don't consider waterboarding torture.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 11:44 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
Mathew 31: 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 12:06 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo says

No I haven't. I don't consider waterboarding torture.

I assume you've undergone the procedure then? Paddy Ashdown has, he was on Question Time the other night. He went through waterboarding as part of his training with the SBS. (Like the SAS but with BOATS!) He says it is torture. In fact everyone I've seen interviuewed who has been waterboarded says it's torture. The only people who don't think it's torture are gobshites like Dick Cheney.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 12:20 pm
@izzythepush,
Nope. There are millions of Americans who do not consider waterboarding torture who have never gone through it. We are allowed to define torture. We don't have to be told how to accept your definition. We aren't your subjects.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 12:34 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
We are allowed to define torture.


No, you are not.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 12:35 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
And neither are we yours. Don't forget you're the ones with your troops on our soil not the other way round before you start that bollocks. If you don't have the guts to experience a procedure before you decide it's not torture than you're a total gobshite. In this I believe Paddy Ashdown, he knows what he's talking about from experience. You don't have a clue.
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 01:15 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo, and you were doing so well. tsk tsk.

It doesn't matter what you consider, what matters is,,,,, what would Jesus do?

Right?

How can anyone believe that the Lamb of God would condone any form of enhanced interrogation or applaud its use by any of His followers?
It's completely inconsistent with the message of His Gospel.

<shakes head>
Joe(go and try to figure out who you are, son.)Nation
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 01:17 pm
@izzythepush,
Have to tell you, izzy, we've not met, but this:
Quote:
What the **** does Jesus know about Christianity?

made me laugh out loud.

Joe(I owe you a beer or a drink, your pick.)Nation
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 01:29 pm
@Joe Nation,
Thank you Jo, I'm afraid we may be too far apart to share a drink, what with the Atlantic in between, but I must admit I have enjoyed your little asides when signing off. It's half past eight over here and my daughter is watching the bloody Eurovision song contest, so I will crack open a beer. I've got my favourites in, urquell pilsen from the Czech republic. I'd offer you one, but there's a bloody ocean in the way.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:13 pm
@DrewDad,
Yes we are, and you can't do anything about it.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:14 pm
@izzythepush,
Nothing you can do about it. Suck on it for a while.
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:15 pm
@Joe Nation,
I never said the Lamb of God would endorse anything. Are you hearing voices? Seems to be a common occurrance around here.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:19 pm
@izzythepush,
So why do you protect muslim murderers who target innocent women and children? Doesn't make sense. You don't care about innocent women and children. That's not very humane.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:27 pm
@izzythepush,
Paddy Ashton is a wimp. Always has been, always will be.
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:30 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
You can't be Woiyo 'cause he made sense the odd time or two.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 03:10 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Paddy Ashdown is a wimp is he? He was brave enough to undergo waterboarding but you are not, what does that make you? This is about whether the use of torture caught Bin Laden and it did not. I'm sorry you can't focus on that, you get distracted too easily.

The concept that opposition to torture equates to protecting murderers is absurd. You've really got to stop watching Fox, it's obviously starting to rot your brain. Try watching a grown up news channel for once, one that actually informs you and lets you know what's going on. Instead of a load of old bollocks designed to reinforce your prejudices.

That may be a little too challenging so instead why not watch Dora the Explorerer. You'll learn some valuable lessons about team work, problem solving, and how to use a map. More advanced viewers also manage to pick up the odd word of Spanish, but you wouldn't want to rush things.
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 03:25 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Heh.
I'm typing this very slowly so you will understand what I'm asking.

Are you asserting that Christ would waterboard someone?
That was the question. I've re-stated it more simply.
Joe(just for you)Nation
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 03:57 pm
@DrewDad,
Who is?
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 04:27 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
USSC.
Maybe you've heard of them.

Joe(Nice people, decisive too.)Nation
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