Fido
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 04:56 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Renaldo Dubois wrote:
What I had in mind? Why the same thing you do.
The perpendicular pendiculum is accordingly variable in the woman at 3 months.
This means no invasion of parasites would be allowed. Therefore, the woman can never carry a parasite in her womb.
I surmise that u r tacitly refusing
to discuss this subject because of your emotional aversion.
U do not wish to discuss freedom of abortion seriously.
So be it.

U have already lost in the real world, thank goodness.

The freedom of abortion is the right to live as a slave and the freedom to deny to the master class another victim of exploitation... It is not freedom, and it is no victory... It is survival as a slave and a victim... What they do in killing their young is a sacrifice of their own lives, their future life to the god of Avarice... They are the victims of abortion as much as their lost children... They are victims before, during, and after, vicitims whether they do the deed or not, victims always... They are the injured party... No one who feels they have no choice can ever be considered free...
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Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 04:57 pm
@Fido,
What in the hell are you talking about? Where do you come up with this stuff?
Fido
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 05:00 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

What in the hell are you talking about? Where do you come up with this stuff?
Look at your history ding dong... Traditionally only relatives of the murdered could bring the case of homicide... No one could bring a case on behalf of slave who was considered a foreigner... And if the murderer was your relative and found guilty, it was your responsibility and yours alone to kill them... What then if you were forced to kill your own to have your survival??? Does that not make you the injured party???
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 05:04 pm
@Fido,
So now the topic is slavery? Are you on drugs? Ding dong doodle.
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 05:11 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Where does it say they have to be born?

You said it.
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

everyone born in the USA is ENTITLED to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 05:14 pm
@parados,
So I did. I need to correct that. How about every human life is entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. There. I like that much better.
parados
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 05:14 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
So, every child is entitled to US citizenship no matter where they are born?
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 05:24 pm
@parados,
So we were talking about abortion, then slavery, and now citizenship. Doesn't the US Constitution say that everyone born in the USA is an American citizen?

Are you purposely trying to confuse the issue here or are you just stupid?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 05:37 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
How about every human life is entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. There. I like that much better


So a group of cells in a woman womb that in 9 months or so is able to become a human is human life?

Also you do not care to pay for an abortion or the raising of the child once he is born.

So what right of the pursuit of happiness does an infant have if no one is able or in your case willing to provide for his needs?
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 05:41 pm
@BillRM,
Nope. The human embryo becomes a human fetus. The "group of cells" is a human being.

Sure are a lot of stupid people around here.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 06:07 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
Nope. The human embryo becomes a human fetus. The "group of cells" is a human being.


Interesting so one mill-second after the egg and the sperm meet we have a child. By your logic.

Any birth control method that can interfere with the fertilely egg from attaching to the womb wall would be an abortion/murder also by your logic.

So any numbers of everyday birth control methods that the bulk of women happen to be using could be an abortion also by your logic.

One of the three ways birth control pills work is by interfering with the fertilely egg attaching to the womb so at least in part women who are on the pill could be having an abortion.

The morning after pill is just a very high dose birth control pill that prevent egg attachments.

The IUD beside interfering with the sperm reaching the egg also interfere with the ability of a fertilely egg from attaching to the womb.

Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 06:56 pm
@BillRM,
I haven't made any mistakes. If it doesn't sound logical to you then I don't know what I can do for you. It takes an indoctrinated liberal to confuse the issue and there sure is a lot of confusion from the left in this thread. The arguments from the left seem to be purposely ignorant of medical common sense. Even a doctor knows that a human embryo is a human being. Do you understand the term "Human Being"? Human sperm. Human egg. Human being. This is basic stuff we all learn in biology. Did you drop out?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 07:41 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
Uh, ah, um, okay. That's a go.
Yeah, the chicks have their defensive freedom,
whether u approve or not; no problem.

ANY citizen has the natural right of defense against any intruder.





David
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 08:42 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

So we were talking about abortion, then slavery, and now citizenship. Doesn't the US Constitution say that everyone born in the USA is an American citizen?

Are you purposely trying to confuse the issue here or are you just stupid?

You brought it up. According to the US Constitution everyone born in the USA are citizens and entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
If you want to grant that to everyone, I guess I figured you wanted to include citizenship.
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

everyone born in the USA is ENTITLED to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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parados
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 08:46 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
And yet, this was about the US Constitution.

Do non US citizens have the exact same rights as citizens under the Constitution?
BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 09:22 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Do non US citizens have the exact same rights as citizens under the Constitution?


NO..they do not have the right to vote or hold public office and they do not have the right to live here and do so at the whims of congress.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 09:22 pm
@BillRM,
Renaldo approves of pregnant women going without prenatal care. If the kid is brain damaged as a result, s/he will be more likely to be rightwing.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 09:25 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
Human sperm. Human egg. Human being


Sorry human fetus is not a human being.

It may become one but it is not one.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 09:25 pm
@Fido,
This is not a country of immense wealth but a country in which a tiny percentage of the population is immensely wealthy. Look at how tawdry and rundown so many of our cities are. Start with Flint, MI.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 9 Apr, 2011 09:26 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
You are totally clueless.
 

 
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