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The creation of everything... How?

 
 
north
 
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Reply Tue 24 May, 2011 11:34 pm

the Universe should be based on the reality that something was always there , no matter how minute you want to go ( nothing is the exact opposite of something )
hamilton
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:13 pm
@north,
i agree.
as far as i can see it, energy needs matter to exist, and because of the conservation of energy law, energy needs to exist. therefore, energy created its own matter. the universe.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 05:37 am
@hamilton,
Matter is energy. Condensed to such compact configurations that it appears solid to us, thus creating the perception of matter. Because perception is all matter really is.
hamilton
 
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Reply Thu 26 May, 2011 06:03 am
@Cyracuz,
i knew that. i believe that therefore, at the edges of the universe (outside of it, actually) there is a perfect void, and either matter is being created out there, or it is being sent out there.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 09:44 am
@hamilton,
I believe that the concepts "outside/inside" don't fit that particular situation.
If we say that the universe is "everything" it does not make sense to speak about what is outside "everything". It sounds reasonable, but that is because of how our language works and our concepts fit together in our minds. If you think of something being outside "everything" then it wasn't "everything" because there is something more...

Matter is created in our perception, which is also the only place it ever exists.
hamilton
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 11:40 am
@Cyracuz,
is complete void something? (besides a term...)
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 03:20 pm
@hamilton,
I really don't know. But if we could stand at this edge of the universe you envision and look beyond it and say "hey, that's a big void", then why would that not be part of the universe?
hamilton
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 04:58 pm
@Cyracuz,
because it is the absolute opposite of existence.
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north
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 07:13 pm
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Matter is energy. Condensed to such compact configurations that it appears solid to us, thus creating the perception of matter. Because perception is all matter really is.


actually it is energy is matter

matter is just an energy in a lower energy state , slows down
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 03:43 am
@north,
Same difference
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:34 pm
Matter is energy.
hamilton
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
right. that was a dumb post. (im talking about mine) sorry.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:40 pm
@hamilton,
No need to be sorry. We all make mistooks. Wink
hamilton
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
lols and tds
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north
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:51 pm
@Cyracuz,
Cyracuz wrote:

Same difference


ahh... NO its not

energy is the origin of matter , not the other way around
hamilton
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:53 pm
@north,
hmm... never heard that other way... (matter before energy)
north
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:54 pm

try http://www.catastrophism.com/texts/electricity-in-space/

and http://www.haltonarp.com/articles

just to get idea(s) of where I'm coming from
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:54 pm
@north,
It's all energy, north. Only, some of it we perceive as matter. But beyond that perception there is no distinction to be made.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 05:54 pm
@north,
From the top expert in physics, Einstein.

Quote:
"It followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing -- a somewhat unfamiliar conception for the average mind. Furthermore, the equation E is equal to m c-squared, in which energy is put equal to mass, multiplied by the square of the velocity of light, showed that very small amounts of mass may be converted into a very large amount of energy and vice versa. The mass and energy were in fact equivalent, according to the formula mentioned above. This was demonstrated by Cockcroft and Walton in 1932, experimentally."

north
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 06:02 pm
@hamilton,
hamilton wrote:

hmm... never heard that other way... (matter before energy)


now you have

plasma energy is very , very high plasma ions
 

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