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Why are no Muslim countries coming to the aid of the Gadhafi opposition who are being killed?

 
 
Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 10:26 am
The non-Muslim countries cannot attack another Muslim country. Why are no Muslim countries coming to the aid of the Gadhafi opposition who are being killed? Why are they not helping to speed the evacuation of Muslims trying to return to their home countries?---BBB

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Gadhafi calls oil fields 'safe'; air strikes reported in eastern Libya'
By Douglas Stanglin, USA TODAY

by Libyan State TV/APTN

Update at 9:06 a.m. ET: An Libyan air force jet drops two bombs over the eastern Libyan town of Brega and the northern town of Ajdabiya, Al-Jazeera TV reports. Reuters, quoting rebel officers, reports that government troops briefly captured Marsa El Brega, an oil export terminal, before being driven back by rebels.

Update at 8:15 a.m. ET: Gadhafi denied that Libya needs outside help. "We have sufficient rations, sufficient food and medical supplies," he said. "We do not need any from outside." This, he said, was an attempt by outsiders to re-colonize Libya.

He said Libyan oil fields are "safe and secure." Gadhafi said it was true that oil production had slowed somewhat, but that this was because some oil workers are "intimidated and afraid" as a result of false reports from foreign countries.

Gadhafi denied that he has any financial assets abroad and said his residences in Libya were given to him by the Libyan people.

Update at 7:52 a.m. ET: Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi said today that "thousands of people will die" if the United States or NATO enters Libya.

Earlier posting: Besieged Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi today blamed the unrest in his country on foreign intervention and said he will resist to the death efforts by foreigners to occupy Libya and control its oil.

"We will fight to the last drop of blood to defend Libyan territory, inch by inch," he said in his third televised speech in two weeks,

Gadhafi, responding to calls for his ouster, said he has no power and turned over control of the country years ago to popular committees.

"I do not have a position to resign from like other leaders," he said.

Gadhafi, seated, spoke for about an hour, addressing a room of several hundred Libyans who occasionally broke into a chant.

He blamed al-Qaeda for the Libyan upheaval. "This story began as al-Qaeda operatives, based inside and outside of Libya, started this campaign," he said.

The Libyan leader denied large scale deaths during the unrest, saying no more than 150 people have died.

He expressed surprise at condemnation of the Libyan government from the United Nations and blamed foreign correspondents for reporting false information on conditions in the country.

"The Security Council should not hand down resolutions based on media reports," he said.
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engineer
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 10:35 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
I'm not sure I understand the question. Non-Muslim countries can and do attack Muslim countries. The US is in Iraq and Afganistan. Arab league countries generally don't attack each other so why would they involve themselves in Libya's civil war? Why would they want to go where non-Muslim countries don't? For them, wouldn't attacking either side involve shooting on Muslims? I don't know what they are doing in trying to repatriate their citizens in Libya, but I haven't heard that it is a major issue though that could be due to the US press giving the issue no coverage.
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 10:36 am
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
3/2/11 (CNN) -- The International Criminal Court is opening an investigation into the situation in Libya, the office of the court's prosecutor said in a statement Wednesday.

"Following a preliminary examination of available information, the prosecutor has reached the conclusion that an investigation is warranted," the statement said.

Prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo plans to present Thursday "an overview of the alleged crimes committed in Libya" since February 15, when the protests in that country started, the statement said.

Libya is not a signatory to the Rome Statute, meaning the Libyan government does not recognize the court's authority. But the United Nations Security Council referred the matter to the court, giving it "jurisdiction" over the situation in Libya, the statement said.
Writer tells of brutality in Libya

The court focuses on what it considers "the most serious crimes of concern to the international community."

No possible charges or violations were listed in the statement.

Demonstrators in several cities have taken to the streets since mid-February, calling for Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi to step down. Some protesters have charged that forces loyal to Gadhafi have fired on the crowds, and the Libyan ambassador to the United States estimated Monday that as many as 2,000 people have been killed.

In the meantime, people are being killed! ---BBB
manored
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 12:56 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
If they didnt investigate before taking action, any ill-intended group could trigger invasions on countries by spreading false information, what is actually something Gadhafi claims to be happening.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 01:30 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
The international court is useless; there's been too many crimes against humanity - even by the US - that was never resolved. International court sounds great, but they are impotent.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 01:46 pm
Most arab/muslim countries are facing the same type of unrest against their own leadership - dictators. If they back the revolutions in other countries it would look as if they were legitimising (if that's a word) their own citizen's grievances.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 02:13 pm
@Ceili,
That's probably it in my view.

However, now that the much vaunted ICC is investigating Gadaffi we can all rest easy in the certainty he is doomed and that freedom will prevail in Libya.

He undoubtedly will recall that the ICC talked Slobodan Miloslovech to death in a four year trial.
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Fido
 
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Reply Wed 2 Mar, 2011 04:00 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
my guess is that those countries realize America is much behind these changes of rule in the Muslim world as much as it is resistent to change in those sections securely in bed with it... We could be looking at the small beginnings of a world war... Do you think all those who suffered because of America in Iran, or to establish and defend the Islamic revolution will roll over and play dead even if we can destroy Kadaffi??? I think the United States is acting boldly in North Africa, but whether they can make it all happen and own again those Muslim lands on the basis of a little discontent is an open question..
BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Thu 3 Mar, 2011 10:38 am
@Fido,
I think that we are watching the final gasps of Colonialism in some parts of the world.

The British and French primarily divided the lands of the defeated Ottoman Empire at the end of WW1 without regard to the various religions and tribes. They created countries that protected their financial interests. They Installed dictators to govern these badly designed countries who would cooperate with their demands.

Not only are the dictator's being ousted by the people, I think they may want to make changes in the locations of their countries to reduce tribal and religious conflicts. They may want to realign lands of the major Muslim religions such as was done between India and Pakistan. They may even want to share the oil wealth between the tribes and religions for the sake of peace.

Who knows how ending the agony of colonialism will change the world.

BBB
Fido
 
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Reply Thu 3 Mar, 2011 05:27 pm
@BumbleBeeBoogie,
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:

I think that we are watching the final gasps of Colonialism in some parts of the world.

The British and French primarily divided the lands of the defeated Ottoman Empire at the end of WW1 without regard to the various religions and tribes. They created countries that protected their financial interests. They Installed dictators to govern these badly designed countries who would cooperate with their demands.

Not only are the dictator's being ousted by the people, I think they may want to make changes in the locations of their countries to reduce tribal and religious conflicts. They may want to realign lands of the major Muslim religions such as was done between India and Pakistan. They may even want to share the oil wealth between the tribes and religions for the sake of peace.

Who knows how ending the agony of colonialism will change the world.

BBB
I doubt this is the end of anything... In some places we are supporting change and I do not think it is lost on anyone where we are resisting change... Our actions are bold, but clearly self serving... Will we get away with it... With nuclear weapons in hand, everything is possible; but a lot of feet on the ground that we do not have would make a positive outcome more likely from the point of view of our ruling class... Our adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan which are the ruin of our economy and the gain of nothing are exacting a price from this people... We are like the Ottoman's in decline, unable to put a fleet in the Indian Ocean or defend ourselves from Russia... It does not make us reasonable, but because we can back it all up with religious madness and Nuclear arms, we are more dangerous than ever...

BBB; I do not think you grasp the extent to which money rather than arms runs this world... We count on the corruption of human kind... Not all, but only enough so we can control the rest... Our adventures in the East which reveals our corruption of our puppets is entirely unnecessary... Get in and get out and let corruption take root... The British long ago gave up official imperialism and colonialism, but they have never given up banking and investment... They do not shrink from using us as their proxies, and of contributing some pittance to our progress; but it is all for the benefit of a few rich while the bulk of the English are only trailer trash...
gop
 
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Reply Thu 24 Mar, 2011 08:51 am
@engineer,
Arab and Muslim countries should really organize themselfs and form a union to protect themselfs from western aggressors stealing their oil reserves by force.
George
 
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Reply Thu 24 Mar, 2011 09:15 am
@gop,
Yeah, maybe they could call it "The Arab League".
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 24 Mar, 2011 10:20 am
@Fido,
Your insights are spot on! Even liberals in this country fail to understand how Obama is guilty of the same sins. The biggest clue was saving wall street over main street when he first took office.
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