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Crashed cars move to outside lanes

 
 
Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 05:43 pm
or something like that. An a2k friend and I were driving along on Coors Boulevard (Albuquerque) and we both saw the sign and had the same reaction: what?

a) sometimes, ya know, you just can't do that
b) isn't moving the cars immediately messy re insurance questions?


Anyone here know more about this, if it's the preferred thing now?
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Tai Chi
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 05:45 pm
@ossobuco,
Were they giving drivers a heads up that there were crashed cars ahead and asking you to move to the outside lanes to avoid them?
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:00 pm
@Tai Chi,
No, it is a standard road sign along all the highways here.

The other odd road sign I see here in ABQ that I haven't seen anywhere else is to warn drivers not to downshift their engines on downgrades, to use the brakes instead.

In California, especially along Interstate 80 over the Sierra's the road signs urgently encourage drivers not to ride their brakes and to downshift on the hills. They also tell drivers to step on the gass to speed up in preparation for approaching steep upgrades.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:07 pm
@Tai Chi,
No, it's a permanent sign.

I will say that people normally speed on Coors. I've posted here before about trying to cross Coors and Montano as a pedestrian. I jogged and didn't quite make the light, going from the corner below the tire place over to the the south eastern corner re the supermarket center. F/n scary, and that was when I still jogged some.
I think of Coors Boulevard as an urbanity impediment.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:09 pm
@Butrflynet,
Thanks, I agree with your points.
Brake Specialists are us - especially at the top of the Grapevine. (There once was a famous gas station.... )
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:16 pm
The a2k friend is Roger. (May he return home safely.) He's an astute observer.

Gotta say, though I felt this somewhat in LA too, that I wanted to overcome the traffic division at times, re the needs of the city - here, I want to take over planning and engineering (coming with me, BFN?)
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:24 pm
@ossobuco,
We should start up a petition to remove stupid road signs...or just become graffiti artists and "edit" the signs.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:39 pm
@Butrflynet,
My better self would have been engaging with the city all this time, but I've been off my feed as active. I did read (a few [3?] years ago?) about a good planner here, but she got promoted away).

But - the signs are probably a state thing, which could be even worse news. I suppose I am going to have to start paying attention.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:41 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

or something like that. An a2k friend and I were driving along on Coors Boulevard (Albuquerque) and we both saw the sign and had the same reaction: what?

a) sometimes, ya know, you just can't do that
b) isn't moving the cars immediately messy re insurance questions?


Obviously, I should have mentioned police questions.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:53 pm
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet wrote:

We should start up a petition to remove stupid road signs...or just become graffiti artists and "edit" the signs.


That's an idea, though I'm unlikely to become the new Banksy. Or Banksy and crew. I've like Conal better. http://www.robbieconal.com/
Alas, I've never graffitied one wit and won't.
I'd probably gather a bunch of wits.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:54 pm
@ossobuco,
a.) It is to keep minor fender benders from blocking the freeway. They don't expect you to move there if the car isn't drivable or there are injuries.
b.) In most "no fault" states, the insurance companies figure out the issues. Unless it is something that specifically requires a police or ambulance response, drivers simply exchange information and report it to the police. If it requires a police response it is safer for all to be on the outside shoulder.


Some places even have specific areas marked for cars to pull off in case of accidents.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:55 pm
@parados,
I can see the point of that. Wondering re pros and cons.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 06:59 pm
@parados,
On the freeway - I am from the land of freeways, Los Angeles, and even on Coors, your average speed demon community barrier in a half million city - this seems problematic.

I'd like to see what ehBeth has to say on all this.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 07:00 pm
@ossobuco,
Also, I'm dumb about no fault states. I get it re divorce, don't know about it re cars.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 07:01 pm
@ossobuco,
Pros... You probably won't be killed yelling at the jerk who hit your car.

Most accident investigators can tell from the damage, how the accident happened. They can tell the speed, who hit who and so on. In other words, they don't have to witness it to figure out fault.

As for the other sign, regarding using breaks et al... they are worded differently in different places, provinces, states... They do not apply to passenger vehicles but to big trucks. Engine retarder breaks are very, very loud. You can often hear the loud rumbling very far away and so, it is common in populated areas to restrict truckers from doing so, everywhere in the n.america.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 07:05 pm
@Ceili,
I inherently take as problematic someone in what I think of as an adrenalin situation trying to move a car across a multilane highway, whether or not the person is wounded, stunned, etc..

Oh, look, whap again!!
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 07:10 pm
@ossobuco,
Most freeway accidents don't happen when the traffic is moving full speed. If they do, they will either require a long distance to stop and plenty of time to pull across a couple of lanes or they will be so violent no one will be driving.

Stopping your car in the middle of the freeway means you have to get out of your car in the middle of the freeway. Good luck with that if traffic is moving by at 70-80 mph.Much safer to risk getting hit in your car pulling over than risk getting hit out of your car on the freeway.
Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 07:10 pm
I absolutely understand your concern, but just this week two women in alberta were killed after one went to help the other after an accident. A few thousand dollars are not worth losing your life.
I watched a car bounce off the side of the golden gate bridge while trying to merge, a few years ago. There are signs all over the place warning NOT to stop if involved and stating you'll get a huge ticket. He had to drive to the other side before he could check out the damage.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 07:24 pm
@parados,
As I said, I'm from Los Angeles. The speeds go from slow to berserk. One of times I had fear shimmers was the last time I zoomed the interchange. It was 7:30 on sunday a.m. and I swear the average speed around those moves was 85, as the freeway was not so frequented. I nailed it, not 85, but I couldn't do that now.

Parados, "most freeway accidents don't happen when the traffic is moving full speed. If they do, they will either require a long distance to stop and plenty of time to pull across a couple of lanes or they will be so violent no one will be driving".

That leaves a lot of room for trouble.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 07:25 pm
@Ceili,
That's interesting, thanks.
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