What would life be like if God/god/gods really existed?

Ask dogs, sheep, etc -- especially what it's like to have imperfect gods reminiscent of Greco-Roman mythology, not immune to pathological traits or being sources of cruelty. If I happen to get my personality encoded in software for posterity, like Jason Leigh, then I might have it ask any surviving/lingering humans of centuries from now what they think of transapients, archailects, and the like.

Pragmatically speaking it makes no difference whether or not there are gods. The world is as it is without gods (or a god).

Thanks,djj62! I'll put them on my To-Read List.

--Just thinking, when you come to NY, how shall we pronounce "DJJ62"
Joe(We could call you 62 for short)Nation

Who you are is 'God', or you would call it that.

You are the great 'Self', who you are is what there 'is' and all that there 'is'.

All this other nonsense about God(grandpappy in the sky), greek 'gods' or whatever else, are just words(thoughts) with their 'attached' conceptulizations.

We continue to have these 'thoughts' however because who we are is all that there 'is', but because the conceptulizations attached to them cannot be proven to ourselves or anyone else, we have to hide behind words such as 'faith, belief, spiritual etc. etc.'.

What's important to realize here is that your 'thoughts' do not need to be proven and you certainly don't need to be wasting time on some forum 'comparing notes' with strangers.

Why do you continue to look outside your 'self' for answers? Why do you seek proof, do you not trust your 'self'? Are you looking to 'hear' some nice words that give you some juicy conceptulizations and a metaphorical hard on?

Stop relying on the rest of the world to justify what's inside and just stay inside to begin with.

I'm with Hitchens on this one. Life would be inherently totalitarian. A being that supervises us and condemns us for thought crime without appeal. Life would be rather masochistic.

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This is exactly what I'm talking about about, Mahmoudgh, what kind of father(GOD) creates evil (although he is not evil, yeah, sure) and tests his already admittedly imperfect children? In the Psychology world, that kind of behavior goes by many names: drama creation, adding to the PainBody, setting up people for failure. Some loving guy this guy God is. Really. AA meetings are full of people who had fathers like this Jerk.

We haven't a clue if we are being tested by a god or gods or just by the nature of things. There certainly isn't any feedback on how we are doing from the Great Tester. Try to find me any evidence that there is any advantage to passing these tests imposed upon us in this life. The righteous are just as likely to drown in New Orleans as the supposed sinfilled bastards. (We, as humans, grieve more for the innocent dead, but that doesn't bring them back nor give us any greater shield against our own misfortune.)

Don't get me wrong. I'm good to my fellow humans, I look out for them and their welfare. I seek out the both the joyful and heartsick, but I'm not doing any of that to pass some test or because there is a supposed reward in some other life. I don't have time to even think about such nonsense.

What I'm saying here is a couple of things: 1) If there is, or ever was, a god creator, the thing (gods don't have sexes, I'm sure) did a damned fine job in the creation bit. Really. Swell Big Bang (but it was silent because there was no air to carry the soundwaves) and equally swell making of the billions of stars and multi-billions of other bits. Making life evolve on Earth was a neat deal and so easily understood once you get the chemical/electrical processes straight in your head.

But, 2) IF it ever did exist, it's been a very inattentive Gardener, at least to the creatures here on Earth. We're told that this thing is JUST and LOVING amongst many other characteristics, but we are always stunned at how rare something JUST or LOVING occurs. Does this world look or feel like something is watching over any of it??? No.

Who knows how the creatures on Moudgh364/~1 are doing? (Pretend that it's one of the estimated billion planets in the known Universe that might have evolved life on them.)

What I'm saying is we need to say "Lovely job on the creation bit, but you've slacked off on your Good Shepherding, your Fathering and especially the quality of mercy. It doesn't seem to rain with any regularity anywhere. So, in the words of Donald Trump, "You're Fired"
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Now, how would I like God/god to be and how would life be different?

I would like to actual love in the world amongst all humans. Should be no biggie.
I would like to have justice, the end of oppression and, for good measure, a universal understanding of what it means to be merciful.
Half a day's work for the omniscient.

Finally, I would like god to enter my consciousness when I call and stop any earworm I have playing over and over in my brain.

Joe(there's more. but I want to hear from others)Nation

If you really dis-believed in the existence of some 'God' then why would you spend all this time typing out all this nonsense against 'him'(God). Also, why would you start this topic?

Are you looking for re-assurance from others that he doesn't exist? Aren't you the one who originally 'assumed' he doesn't exist, why would you need to write about it then and 'show it' to others?

Just because you had a 'religious' upbringing(family, church going, friends) doesn't mean that whatever 'ideas' they put in your head are true and you certainly don't need to go running around dis-proving them to your 'buddies'.

You don't go batting at mirages with a stick, you just know it's a mirage and you walk right through it.

we Humans would be subjugated

hmm... well we are now

How?

How in any way shape or form are you subjugated? Are there strings attached to you? Can't you do anything that you wish? I mean sure there are these 'laws' but if you really go into them you'll see that the consequences are minimal at best.

'Fear' is a very common and very adamant type of 'emotion' and everyone else in the world is going to make sure you at least hear about it if you don't 'feel' it. However, if you look at it closely you'll see that it doesn't even exist!

Think of the last time you were afraid, did anything happen? No. What about the last time you did something you 'weren't supposed' to do? Were there consequences? Yes, but obviously they were minimal because you're still standing upright on the same ground you were on before.

You have the illusion of subjugation from your own fear and the constant 'pumping up' of that fear from all those around you. It's fine if you want to consider your 'self' subjugated, just don't go around blaming other people for your mistakes.

god has strings not just by laws but his expectations of Humans towards god




hmm... this interesting since god got angry at Eve , and condemmed the rest of us because of Eves actions

it seems to me that a rebel has something to fear




okay , what of this , I want god out of here and take lucifer and satan with you , please

opposites attract , is that not right god ?





we shall now see shan't we , will god see the truth ?

Instead of quoting my statements and then 'reporting back' on the conclusions of your thinking that happened when you were reading them, why not type out your thinking? Why not share your thought with me instead of barking at me that I'm wrong or you're right or visa versa?

Do you not have that ability?

Metaphorical hard on achieved, now back to SportsCenter.

if god(s) really existed we would be subjugated , hence god(s)

we are no longer the child , lambs , we can think for ourselves

Probably you have the conviction that marketing is a total waste of time...

The point is to reply to the question posed by my good friend Joe Nation. The act of replying does not require agreement or disagreement. I require no such validation, nor was my post requesting validation. I simply participated.


The benefit I may find in any conversation I elect to join is a personal matter. If my answer is no, it doesn't matter because learning is not requisite in order to reply. If my answer is yes, it doesn't matter for the same reason. Simply put, I may reply out of enjoyment, curiosity, or as in this case simply to contribute my opinion on a question that asked for opinions.


A2K fills my browser with cookies already, and I'm not terribly fond of baked confections. No, I am not making a bid for any cookies currently.


Actually, I find my life rather fulfilling. As it happens, coming here and interacting with many people, some similar to myself, others not so, I find a great deal satisfaction. Further, expressing myself on a "would be" question is simply a smaller part of intellectual curiosity and mental exercise. How a boring life is cannot be measured in a person's willingness to participate in a theoretical question.


I'm not sure if anyone is concerned with my opinion, but the Op did not qualify his request with a statement to the effect of "please reply if you think your opinion is something someone would care about." The tacit implication of anyone sharing an opinion is that others may be interested. This is certainly a reasonable assumption given that I did not simply express my opinion on any topic, but on a topic that had been identified by someone else. Your thrust; criticism of my self importance would have been valid if perhaps I had decided to share my opinion on what is the best condiment in this thread, but since the opinion I shared happened to be directly relevant to the topic, I feel I have made no error.

Speaking more specifically to whether I think anyone cares about my opinion: Yes, I believe people do. I believe this, because I have listened and shared opinions with people on these boards for the last 5 years.

I'm interested in your opinion on the topic. I'm less interested in your critique of me.


Nothing. I have achieved nothing. I set out not to achieve anything in reply. I am participating.

What did you achieve by making an ass out of yourself trying to single me out?

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Metaphorically speaking... is it in yet?

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That was a great read, and I appreciate you taking the time to write out your 'thinking' instead of just barking at me.

Unfortunately, that drug has a well known history of undesirable side effects at the level of society.

What if the God was a woman?