In my opinion, your attitude towards Jews are divisive for this country, since most Jews are contributing Americans to America, perhaps in a different way than perhaps you deem valuable. Regardless, give your speech to someone else.
By the way, are you a veteran? Funny, I am, and am Jewish. Ain't that odd?
P.S. If you really want to know who this country belongs to, think WASP. And, many of them value the presence of Jews. Not all WASP's value the presence of Catholics, believe it or not, since, in the opinion of some WASP's, Catholics would be comfortable if this became a Catholic country.
So, if you continue to post on this thread, please do not reply to me, you would only be a broken record, rehashing your same vitriol.
Foofie wrote:If I gave all my loyalty to the Catholic Church as many jews give to Israel, then I would justly consider myself a traitor to the land and people...
In my opinion, your attitude towards Jews are divisive for this country, since most Jews are contributing Americans to America, perhaps in a different way than perhaps you deem valuable. Regardless, give your speech to someone else.
By the way, are you a veteran? Funny, I am, and am Jewish. Ain't that odd?
P.S. If you really want to know who this country belongs to, think WASP. And, many of them value the presence of Jews. Not all WASP's value the presence of Catholics, believe it or not, since, in the opinion of some WASP's, Catholics would be comfortable if this became a Catholic country.
So, if you continue to post on this thread, please do not reply to me, you would only be a broken record, rehashing your same vitriol.
Fido wrote:
Foofie wrote:If I gave all my loyalty to the Catholic Church as many jews give to Israel, then I would justly consider myself a traitor to the land and people...
In my opinion, your attitude towards Jews are divisive for this country, since most Jews are contributing Americans to America, perhaps in a different way than perhaps you deem valuable. Regardless, give your speech to someone else.
By the way, are you a veteran? Funny, I am, and am Jewish. Ain't that odd?
P.S. If you really want to know who this country belongs to, think WASP. And, many of them value the presence of Jews. Not all WASP's value the presence of Catholics, believe it or not, since, in the opinion of some WASP's, Catholics would be comfortable if this became a Catholic country.
So, if you continue to post on this thread, please do not reply to me, you would only be a broken record, rehashing your same vitriol.
You are saying that being a devout Catholic might lessen the ability to being a patriotic American? The Catholic Church is a religion, not a nationality, in no way lessening anyone's ability to being a patriotic American. In my opinion, you seem to have accepted a very narrow definition of what it means to be a patriotic American. First, you claimed, Judaism lessens the ability to be a patriotic American, because America should not be pro-Israel? Now Catholicism lessens the ability to be a patriotic American, because ??????
What if the definition of American was determined to include only those that had ancestors from the original English colonists? You would be SOL.
You do not seem to appreciate that the diversity in this country comes with the acceptance that different people have different views of what America should be doing on the world stage. You are presupposing that your definition is inherently correct, and therefore you can disenfranchise other citizens that do not accept your definition of America's role on the world stage. Sorry, you are making fictional definitions of what America should do on the world stage. Simply put, you lose!
P.S. You are aware that in prior centuries, your Irish ancestors were not considered "white" by the definition of the English in the 18th and early 19th century. Only your German ancestors where considered "white." So, can you appreciate how good America is, in its accepting diversity, so all peoples can live, and share, in America as full citizens. And, you are aware of how the Irish in the later half of the 19th century were not welcome in many parts of "polite society"? All because they were Catholic and not English. You need a history lesson, perhaps?
Well, if you say you will never be a good Catholic, you need not "find a better" church. You can just read the bible, like many a Christian. In my opinion, you are too focussed on your defintions of what is good, or what is bad. Too rigid, I believe. You might spend your life swimming upstream possibly, and reach old age very frustrated? Also, am I wrong in perceiving a great amount of anger? Perhaps, your anger stems from a desire to give yourself a feeling of self-righteous anger, meaning you are fighting the reality that we all are, including you, quite inconsequential. Hitler tapped into that desire, and got a country to follow him. So did Mussolini.
The U.S. is too big, and too wealthy to make your concerns worth addressing. Plus, those you deem of lesser patriotism are still valuable for other reasons. You might not be seeing the forest for the trees, so to speak, when it comes to how this country runs quite effectively, by allowing all the patriots and other folk to make America a world power?
I really believe your perceptions are short sighted. You are devaluing some people, I would guess, that contribute more to American society than you do. But, that would not bother you? If not, then your brand of patriotism is self-defeating for America's future strength.
Remember, the folks who truly own this country value people for their contribution to society, not some narrow view of who is patriotic. So, I think it is fair to say you are not one of those people that OWNS America? You are here, but of minor importance, in my opinion.
In my opinion, talking about the correct direction of the country, its people and politics, reminds me how on some a.m. radio stations, that are devoted to only "sports talk," some people call up and talk about this or that team, as though they were the managers, owners, or coaches of the teams they talk about. Well, they usually have not one cent invested in any teams, and sports today is a big business. Similarly, the business of the U.S. is business, and when some of us talk about politics we talk as though we have some real "EQUITY" in the country. Most of us don't. Some would like to think that since many of their respective group spilt blood in many a war, they have "earned" some sort of "blood equity" (and belittle sometimes those that have not spilt an equal amount of blood). They have not earned any type of equity in the country. The "families" that own land as far as the eye can see, or a percentage of the real estate on a "main street," are the equity owners of this country. Many of these families were in the U.S. before 1800, and are called the "old line families." So, unless you are amongst these elite, I would hope you are humble enough to not want to give direction to those that truly own this country, under its capitalistic system. We elect people, and pay them a salary to manage this country. "
You are entering the realm of boring me with your concerns, since they really are not your concerns, in my opinion.
The initial post that started this thread had this statement:
"My question is: HOW CAN WE ALLOW SUCH THINGS????
I tried to understand where that insidious influence started and I found this seemingly innocuous article that explains it. The Jews are re-writing history. Who controls our understanding of the past controls our present and our future. "
I believe that within the above statement is the attitude that Jews are really outsiders to some birthright of the Gentile majority.
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This thread should be relabeled: Sick and Tired of Gentile Ingratitude for Jewish Contributions to Civilization.
Foofie wrote:
The initial post that started this thread had this statement:
"My question is: HOW CAN WE ALLOW SUCH THINGS????
I tried to understand where that insidious influence started and I found this seemingly innocuous article that explains it. The Jews are re-writing history. Who controls our understanding of the past controls our present and our future. "
I believe that within the above statement is the attitude that Jews are really outsiders to some birthright of the Gentile majority.
..........
This thread should be relabeled: Sick and Tired of Gentile Ingratitude for Jewish Contributions to Civilization.
Sorry but "gentile" isn't in my vocabulary. Rewriting history wasn't enough for you? I'm not planning to learn foreign languages.
Foofie wrote:
The initial post that started this thread had this statement:
"My question is: HOW CAN WE ALLOW SUCH THINGS????
I tried to understand where that insidious influence started and I found this seemingly innocuous article that explains it. The Jews are re-writing history. Who controls our understanding of the past controls our present and our future. "
I believe that within the above statement is the attitude that Jews are really outsiders to some birthright of the Gentile majority.
..........
This thread should be relabeled: Sick and Tired of Gentile Ingratitude for Jewish Contributions to Civilization.
Sorry but "gentile" isn't in my vocabulary. Rewriting history wasn't enough for you? I'm not planning to learn foreign languages.
Foofie:I'm Jewish and a Navy veteran.Other veterans in my family include my cousin who fought in Korea, another cousin who fought in Vietnam,another who
was a Navy officer and my brother in law who volunteered for the Army.
The so-called "patriotism" of the Jew-haters is usually confined to loud speeches
and nothing else.That's the brand of patriotism you see from the White Nationalists on Stormfront, the most ignorant, arrogant bunch of lying hypocrites on the internet.
