Quote:I must disagree with you... It is always hard to be brave, to dare to think bravely and act bravely without concern or second thought... I am too brave, and I lived by my courage and hard work... I have saved a life at the risk of my own... I have never run from a fire... I have without prompting helped to hunt down an armed robber while unarmed... People know in advance what their limits are, or if they have any limits, which is more the problem... I mean, in regard to the Jews, that they are strictly and formally ethical
My my I am impressed with your claims and I am assuming you would be brave enough to watch your family being slowly torture to death as that the kind of pressure that the Nazis was more then willing to place on people.
Risking death is nothing for yourself as I had done so for fun as in skydiving or flying a three hundreds pound ultralight to a height of two miles however taking prolong torture is a horse of another color to say nothing of watching a love one being torture.
As far as your claims that you married a Jewish woman if true I can only feel very sorry for the lady and your son.
Hopefully she had divorce you and gotten your son far far far away from you.
Footnote in both sports I had witness friends dying.
I more then likely owe my very existed to a few Jewish scientists along with ten of millions of others gentiles who fathers and grandfathers was likely to had been killed if we needed to had invade the Japanese home islands at the end of WW2.
The initial post that started this thread had this statement:
"My question is: HOW CAN WE ALLOW SUCH THINGS????
I tried to understand where that insidious influence started and I found this seemingly innocuous article that explains it. The Jews are re-writing history. Who controls our understanding of the past controls our present and our future. "
I believe that within the above statement is the attitude that Jews are really outsiders to some birthright of the Gentile majority. Well, in my opinion, Jews who only number some five or six million in the U.S. are not magicians, so their disproportionate influence for their concerns may just be based on they have an easy act to follow.
And, since this is a capitalistic country, it really does not matter how many of any group is here. What matters is what a group is doing. And, while some Jews are busy making money, or effecting political influence, others spent their time, for example, developing/discovering for all of youse guys both the oral and regular polio vaccine. I do not hear any complaints about that. Or when they are good dentists, or they cure a child's infection, or when they teach a child to read, etc., etc. In effect, amongst a goodly number of youse Gentiles, only when you are getting "good utility" from "The Jews" do you keep a lid on the natural tribal instincts to think of Jews as outsiders. Sorry guys, the U.S.A. does not have outsiders; only Europe did.
This thread should be relabeled: Sick and Tired of Gentile Ingratitude for Jewish Contributions to Civilization.
My question to you would be: How can you stop them short of the destruction of your own humanity... They are smart, they stick together as we cannot, and they are everywhere money and power can be found... They are not that much better than us old white folks, not any better than the Chinese, but they use the little advantage of nature and culture to their best advantage, and who can blame them since it is not illegal and they are not exactly part of our nation, but their own nation, sorjourners... If you made exploitation of human beings illegal today, tomorrow they would be prosecuting offenders... They win.. They are too smart for us or we are too dum for them...
Quote:My question to you would be: How can you stop them short of the destruction of your own humanity... They are smart, they stick together as we cannot, and they are everywhere money and power can be found... They are not that much better than us old white folks, not any better than the Chinese, but they use the little advantage of nature and culture to their best advantage, and who can blame them since it is not illegal and they are not exactly part of our nation, but their own nation, sorjourners... If you made exploitation of human beings illegal today, tomorrow they would be prosecuting offenders... They win.. They are too smart for us or we are too dum for them...
You are sick person indeed if you believed any of the above nonsense and of all the groups in the world the Jews who had have whole populations wipe out for the last two thousands years.
Two thousands years of this kind of nonsense should be enough and I had never never agree with the European approach of declaring such talks as illegal hate speech but still as time after time after time such talk had let to one pogroms after another maybe I and the founding fathers was wrong in that regard.
They are not really different genetically, but their culture justifies the exploitation of non Jews... R
Quote:They are not really different genetically, but their culture justifies the exploitation of non Jews... R
Sorry it is not the Jewish people who have a two thousands history of killing non-Jews.
... I still ask: What shall be done with any group that feels itself superior, is willing to take advantage, and is superior in intelligence and education??? I am looking for an answer; not a solution...
I am not sure if your post reflects a Catholic/Protestant/Agnostic position? Or, maybe a position based on one's political affiliation?
However, back to this thread's original concern, blaming American Jews for the U.S.A.'s continued support of Israel, in my opinion, is like picking on the skinny, timid Jewish kid in the schoolyard, rather than try to bully the tough kids. I say that since there are 60 million Born Again Evangelical Christians that are very pro-Israel. Many to the point of considering themselves Christian Zionists. Many of their children join the military. Some consider themselves as a defense against Christianity's enemies. Many even think of themselves as Christian Zionists. And, each one has one vote too.
So, blaming Jews for their "vocal" support of Israel is sort of like being a bully, in my opinion, since their support may often be the post traumatic consequence of understanding the Holocaust from a visceral perspective. One would not be a bully if one complained about the Christian Right that supports Israel, as required for bible prophecy to come to fruition (The Second Coming). And the support for Israel from the Christian Right is based on the desire to hasten the Second Coming. Anyway, I never hear any complaint about the 60 million Evangelicals that support Israel. Could that be, because those that are not pro-Israel know that there is enough residual anti-Semitism in the world to maintain a following by just "blaming the Jews"?
Plus, when Catholics are pro-Palestinean, or pro-Arab, I always have to wonder whether they are just trying to give the impression that the U.S.A. is not entirely made up of right-wing anti-Arab hawks, since such an image could result in their Catholic co-religionists, that do live world-wide, and in the Middle East, could become the target of anti-west rioting?
And, the basic premise of this thread is atavistic, since Jews are Americans just like all other Americans, and have been here just as long, so the basis of "they" and "us" is just so much divisiveness that is not part of the American tradition.
As long as they are Jews they will NEVER be Americans... WE all left that crap at the door or at least soon after... The Jews, and Many Muslims are hanging on to all that makes them a separate Nation within the Nation... They are no different in this than the Evangelical who believe given their special privilages that they are above the law and moral restraint...It is just that the Jews are more widely connected to the whole world Nation of Israel, which is a nation in the true sense of the word: a people springing from a common mother...That is their true affinity... That is their true loyalty...
I can understand the Evangelicals... They are idiots, but dangerous idiots... There is nothing stupid about the Jews, and they seek power where ever they are... You cannot read about any place in European history where the Jews did not rise just as far as they were allowed to, and if they were not allowed to rise further then they undermined... Not to say that should not have happened anyway... It is just that government is designed or becomes a channel for wealth and power when it should not be, but as a channel it can be turned for the Jews by the Jews so that few besides them see the benefit of government...
Teddy Roosevelt said there are no hyphenated Americans... He was right... This is everyone's last chance, and it is being screwed up with a lot of old world ideas that should have been left at the door... So if you are just here bleeding this people so you can go back to Israel and bleed Palestinians, get the fck outa town... You are not welcome here, and you don't count as human in my book... Humanity is welcome here... Show you are human if you want to be welcomed...
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Teddy Roosevelt said there are no hyphenated Americans... He was right... This is everyone's last chance, and it is being screwed up with a lot of old world ideas that should have been left at the door... So if you are just here bleeding this people so you can go back to Israel and bleed Palestinians, get the fck outa town... You are not welcome here, and you don't count as human in my book... Humanity is welcome here... Show you are human if you want to be welcomed...
You don't think many Irish-Americans are concerned about the welfare of Ireland? You don't think many WASP's are concerned about the welfare of mother England? (We did not get into WWII to protect Poland.)
Anyway, the fact that American Jews are concerned about the welfare of Israel does not make them less American, unless being American means that one should be just plain vanilla American, of some Protestant denomination, and ancestors that came from as many countries as one has fingers.
Again I remind you that 60 million Americans, of Evangelical faith, are very concerned about Israel, perhaps more so than many an American Jew. So, I believe the U.S.A. will still be pro-Israel, with the monetary support, even if all American Jews went to Antarctica. So, I believe your advice towards American Jews is poorly thought out.
I assume you are not a hyphenated American. Ain't that peachy. We are all not so lucky. So, until many "ethnics" lose that "hyphen" I think you deserve a "C-" for hospitality.
Also, your desire to rid America of its Jewish Americans must mean that you are giving this advice based on some authority you were given. I wouldn't want to think that an "unhyphenated" American has usurped the laws of the U.S.A., based perhaps on the misconstrued belief of the rights of the "unhyphenated"?
And, let me tell you a bit of bitter truth. Many of the unhyphenated Americans (aka, WASP's) would rather have American Jews as citizens of the U.S.A. than many an American of your thinking. You see, American Jews are a resource (intellectual/financial) to America, and they know it. Many other people of your thinking are the marginal haves of the society, and only a drain on the society. Do you live on the "right side" of the tracks, so to speak. If not, you already know what I am saying; if not, this might be disappointing news.
Also, save your breath, if you will respond with just a tirade that responds to none of my posted points. I really get your thinking. Giving it over and over again in a litany just is not good for your equanimity.
Since I do not know your background, while you have a better idea of mine, I cannot really accept that your posts truly reflect an unbiased opinion. Maybe they do; maybe they don't?