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Bush family has it any Jewish heritage?

 
 
geo1671
 
Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 09:34 am
Reading an article on ANTIWAR.COM, pay-offs from China companies to the Bush bothers--I found that Marvin Bush received lot's of money for doing favours. Does anyone know why he received a Jewish first name or is this a mistake in print? Recall that Hillary stated -she is part jewish--I wonder what the benefits are? Twisted Evil Question
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 10:10 am
Marvin is not a Jewish first name, geo. Neither is Irving or Harold, in case you were wondering...
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jespah
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 10:17 am
Why should this matter?

Plus, since when was Marvin a Jewish name only? Ever hear of, oh, let's see:
Marvin Gaye
Marvin King (a Christian Blue singer, see: http://www.marvinking.com/) or
Marvin Olasky (see: http://www.olasky.com/biography.html He's the editor in chief of a Christian newsletter)

Also, Hillary Clinton isn't part Jewish. See: http://criterion.uchicago.edu/issues/iv5/matthews.html
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geo1671
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 10:51 am
Thanks for the information- by the way is Whoopie Goldberg Jewish or means of getting a job in hollywood? Does anyone know if a job in hollywood or Washington, the prerequest is that you must be Jewish?--Seems to me that way!
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 10:55 am
That doesn't even warrant a proper response.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 11:00 am
geo1671
geo1671, welcome (I think) to Able2Know. Glad (I hope) to have you here.

I'm curious, what are you reading or listening to that would cause you to ask such ill-informed and anti-semitic questions?

Interesting that you reference the Bush family, which has a long record of anti-semitism.

BumbleBeeBoogie

Bush Family History: Relevant to international politics?

In October 1942, ten months after entering World War II, America was
preparing its first assault against Nazi military forces. Prescott Bush was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. His 18-year-old son George, the future U.S. President, had just begun training to become a naval pilot. On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush. Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland "Bunny" Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush. (1)

By Oct. 26, 1942, U.S. troops were under way for North Africa. On Oct. 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation. (2)

U.S. forces landed under fire near Algiers on Nov. 8, 1942; heavy combat raged throughout November. Nazi interests in the Silesian-American Corporation, long managed by Prescott Bush and his father-in-law George Herbert Walker, were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act on Nov. 17, 1942. In this action, the government announced that it was seizing only the Nazi interests, leaving the Nazis' U.S. partners to carry on the business. (3)

Bush and Quayle's advisers in 1988 included several European fascist activists, including Nazi collaborator Laszlo Pasztor, who had served as junior envoy in Berlin for the Arrow Cross regime in his native Hungary; Florian Goldau, who had been recruiter for the Romanian Iron Guard; Bohdan Fedorak, who had headed a Ukranian pro-Nazi group involved in wartime pogroms; and Croatian-born agitator Jerome Brentar, a fixture on the Holocaust denial circuit. (4)

Discussing what he would say to Israeli Jews upon arriving in the middle east in 1993, George W. joked: "[You're all] going to hell." (5)

Tapes of the Bush Family's long-time spiritual adviser, Billy Graham, have revealed that Graham used to have vehemently anti-Semitic conversations with Nixon. For example, Graham blamed "satanic Jews" for the nation's problems. After agreeing with Nixon that left-wing Jews dominate the news-media, Graham stated that "They're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff," and the Jewish "stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain." He also admitted that "a lot of the Jews are great friends of mine.... But they don't know how I really feel about what they are doing about this country." (6)

References:
1. Office of Alien Property Custodian, Vesting Order No. 248. The
order was signed by Leo T. Crowley, Alien Property Custodian,
executed October 20, 1942; F.R. Doc. 42-11568; Filed, November 6,
1942, 11:31 A.M.; 7 Fed. Reg. 9097 (Nov. 7, 1942). See also the New
York City Directory of Directors (available at the Library of
Congress). The volumes for the 1930s and 1940s list Prescott Bush as
a director of Union Banking Corporation for the years 1934 through
1943.

2. Alien Property Custodian Vesting Order No. 259: Seamless Steel
Equipment Corporation; Vesting Order No. 261: Holland-American
Trading Corp.

3. Alien Property Custodian Vesting Order No. 370: Silesian-American Corp.

4. Washington Jewish Week, September 8, 1988.

5. Austin-American Statesman, December 1, 1998.

6. David Firestone, "Billy Graham Responds to Lingering Anger Over
1972 Remarks on Jews." New York Times, Sunday, March 17, 2002.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 11:09 am
geo1671

I'm not well informed enough about how Americans choose their children's name, but here in Europe, first names don't say anything about the religious background of the parents but show only, if they tend to go 'à la mode' (which now would be 'Jewish' or archaic Christian names), 'old styled' (e.g. still choosing Scandinavic first names), or ... ... .


Besides, I'm now curious to your answer re BBB's question, interests me, too.
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fishin
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 11:12 am
OMG! Marvin the Martian is Jewish??? Whodathunkit? lol

http://www.gargaro.com/mar2.gif
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 11:13 am
My given first name is Albert--that's Frankish in origin . . .

My middle name is derived from a Hebrew name . . .

I have neither Hebrew nor Frankish blood--but i do have Scots blood, so them there Jews in the stores better just look out . . . i can pinch a penny 'til ol' Abe squeals.

Come on folks, let's trot out our favorite stereotypes . . .
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 11:30 am
Hey, BBB, thanks for adding that article to your post. Those Bushs sure sound Jewish to me. I also find it curious that some of the biggest names in Hollywood these days are Ben Affleck, Reese Witherspoon, Gwynneth Paltrow, Julia Roberts, Colin Farrell, Adrian Brody....imagine that...the list of non-Jews goes on and on...
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eoe
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 12:12 pm
Isn't Gwyneth Paltrow indeed Jewish? Father- Bruce Paltrow, mother- Blythe Danner? And I'm willing to bet money that Adrian Brody is. And wouldn't be surprised if Ben Affleck is also.
I don't think it's necessary to deny the fact that Hollywood's entertainment industry is very Jewish and always has been. Don't know what geo's point is exactly but THAT is a fact.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 12:29 pm
eoe, everyone knows that Bruce is a gay name, not a Jewish name, so Bruce Paltrow is clearly gay, not Jewish. Adrian Brody has a hook nose, and likes blondes, but he is not Jewish. I suspect he's a filthy Armenian. In the interests of research, I shall start a KKK hit list. Feel free to add any other perceived offenders. I'll start with two:

Whoopi Goldberg (mentioned earlier) - Black and Jewish
Isaac Mizrahi - Gay and Jewish

At least Sammy Davis Jr. died naturally. To me, geo doesn't really have a point. Even if many Jews work in Hollywood, it is certainly not a "prerequisite". That is the most inane thing I have ever heard, but there is always someone who will dust off the old stereotypes. "Seems that way to me" says geo. Pure speculation, not a shred of evidence. As for Washington, puuhleeze. Washington is dominated by WASPS, not Jews, unless of course you buy into the Jewish-Masonic-Illuminati conspiracy theories. If one does, one really is a complete moron.
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eoe
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 12:51 pm
Careful Cav, sounds to me like you're doing more stereotyping here than anyone.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 12:53 pm
I think cav is just having a little fun with the stereotypes, but this whole subject is like a mine field. I deleted one of my posts as soon as I added it, lest it be misconstrued...
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 12:55 pm
Yeah, I don't want to be misunderstood. D'artagnan is correct, just a bit of minefield fun. No offence was really intended to anyone.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 12:59 pm
Damn . . . we don't get to offend no one ?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 01:04 pm
Personally, I think Marvin the Martian is a clear stereotype of Martians. He looks nothing like John the Martian on Justice League. He can't even phase through solid matter, or read thoughts.
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fishin
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 01:12 pm
cavfancier wrote:
Personally, I think Marvin the Martian is a clear stereotype of Martians. He looks nothing like John the Martian on Justice League. He can't even phase through solid matter, or read thoughts.


But he's got a really cool broom on top of his helmet! Very Happy
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 01:16 pm
I thought geo1671's other topic here, currently unanswered, might make for interesting conversation:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16744&highlight=
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Tue 23 Dec, 2003 01:20 pm
Hard to know what to make of geo's other topic, cav. Lack of responses may suggest that others are having the same problem...
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