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Tunesia, Egyt and now Yemen: a domino effect in the Middle East?

 
 
revelette
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 09:14 am
@hawkeye10,
Apparently they do want the Prime Minister to resign.

Quote:
The protesters say their main demand is the resignation of Sheikh Khalifa bin Salman al-Khalifa, the prime minister, who has governed Bahrain since its independence in 1971.

An uncle of the king, he is seen as a symbol of the wealth of the ruling family.

The protesters say they are also demanding the release of political prisoners, which the government has promised, and the creation of a new constitution.

Shias, thought to be in the majority in Bahrain, are ruled by a Sunni royal family.

Poverty, high unemployment and alleged attempts by the state to grant citizenship to Sunni foreigners to change the demographic balance have intensified discontent among the Shias.

Around half of the kingdom's 1.3 million people are Bahraini, with the rest being foreign workers.



source

No matter how it turns out regarding our military base, the US should and so far has support the protesters and denounce the violence against them. If the majority of the nation is Shiites, then they should have a fairer representation than they currently have from what I have reading.
engineer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 09:15 am
I completely missed this over the weekend. Is this suspected to be related to the pro-Mubarak crowd? Logan has been one of the most aggressive Middle East reporters since the Iraq war started. There aren't to many with her experience in the field.

Quote:
"On Friday February 11, the day Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak stepped down, CBS Correspondent Lara Logan was covering the jubilation in Tahrir Square for a 60 Minutes story when she and her team and their security were surrounded by a dangerous element amidst the celebration. It was a mob of more than 200 people whipped into a frenzy.

"In the crush of the mob, she was separated from her crew. She was surrounded and suffered a brutal and sustained sexual assault and beating before being saved by a group of women and an estimated 20 Egyptian soldiers. She reconnected with the CBS team, returned to her hotel and returned to the United States on the first flight the next morning. She is currently in the hospital recovering.
sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 09:17 am
@engineer,
Yes, that's what I've been seeing in the coverage. That it was the pro-Mubarak thugs.

Really disturbing, especially the image of her "moments before" the attack.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 09:38 am
@Lash,
They're harpies because they point out the obvious, that we're a bunch of hypocrites preaching democracy and supporting dictatorial regimes that toe our line?

Here's a hint for you, when these "harpies" call for more Western resolution and decisiveness they don't mean raining Nuclear WMD Democracy on these countries.

Obama's is just another US administration looking to keep the status quo in the Middle East. It's situations like these revolutions that expose the US' hypocritical realpolitik.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 10:51 am
@engineer,
You may have missed this as well

NIR ROSEN

Unbelievable

spendius
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 11:48 am
@revelette,
Quote:
Around half of the kingdom's 1.3 million people are Bahraini, with the rest being foreign workers.


Workers being a euphemism for slaves. As in Kuwait.

I wouldn't be surprised if being sexually assaulted was all in a day's work.
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JPB
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 12:19 pm
From the Guardian Live blog

5:13pm GMT: The BBC has a very handy guide to the countries in the Middle East and North Africa facing unrest, complete with the Economist Intelligence Unit's "shoe thrower's index" ranking and other data.

The STI (as we can call it) has Yemen top with 86%, and Libya second at 71% – suggesting both those countries are the likeliest sites of further protests and tension.
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engineer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 12:25 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Yes, I missed that as well. Hard to believe people write this stuff.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 12:48 pm
@engineer,
I think we may have discovered JTT's actual identity. Twisted Evil
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 01:01 pm
@spendius,
Outstanding!
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 02:42 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Most people would say the US and UK have meddled enough in the direction of the ME and other countries...


Lash, this type of understatement is simply another form of lying. The US/UK haven't simply "meddled", they have committed war crimes, they have illegally invaded sovereign nations. They have committed genocide.

"meddled" - for Christ's sakes, Lash, call a spade a spade!
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 02:48 pm
@JTT,
And supporting regimes that use slaves and torture. 50 lashes for looking at the Sheik's lady "funny-like".
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 02:54 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
You may have missed this as well

NIR ROSEN

Unbelievable


Evidently, you've all missed this, and much more as well. Where has the outrage been? What happened to Lara Logan, while sad, [haven't read the report yet] is really much much less than the much more brutal abuse that untold millions have suffered at the hands of the USA.

And really, you have got to admit, there is no outrage, there is no wringing of hands, no castigating those who rejoice in the slaughter of these innocents.

Quote:

THE SECRET WARS OF THE CIA:

part II

CIA COVERT OPERATIONS IN CENTRAL AMERICA, CIA MANIPULATION OF THE PRESS, CIA EXPERIMENTATION ON THE U.S. PUBLIC

by John Stockwell


Systematically, the contras have been assassinating religious workers, teachers, health workers, elected officials, government administrators. You remember the assassination manual? that surfaced in 1984. It caused such a stir that President Reagan had to address it himself in the presidential debates with Walter Mondale. They use terror. This is a technique that they're using to traumatize the society so that it can't function.

I don't mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to understand what your government and its agents are doing. They go into villages, they haul out families. With the children forced to watch they castrate the father, they peel the skin off his face, they put a grenade in his mouth and pull the pin. With the children forced to watch they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents watch while they do these things to the children.

This is nobody's propaganda. There have been over 100,000 American witnesses for peace who have gone down there and they have filmed and photographed and witnessed these atrocities immediately after they've happened, and documented 13,000 people killed this way, mostly women and children.

These are the activities done by these contras. The contras are the people president Reagan calls `freedom fighters'. He says they're the moral equivalent of our founding fathers. And the whole world gasps at this confession of his family traditions.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/StockwellCIA87_2.html

revelette
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 04:12 pm
I guess you have to keep your reputation up. JTT. If those things were really true, we would hear about them from other people, it would be in the human rights organization web site or something.
Ceili
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 04:53 pm
@revelette,
It has.
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engineer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:32 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
What happened to Lara Logan, while sad, [haven't read the report yet] is really much much less than the much more brutal abuse that untold millions have suffered at the hands of the USA.

Why do you even connect the two? You are saying that a brutal rape of a reporter covering a news story is excused because of US policy? How about Giffords being gunned down? No sympathy there because of U.S. policy. She's in Congress after all! Some A2K member says he had a death in the family? NO SYMPATHY! DID YOU SEE WHAT THE U.S. DID? With views like this, you should work for the CIA. Clearly have have the same level of compassion.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 07:03 pm
@revelette,
I DO believe that when a huge, largely isolated region filled with people who have been conditioned to believe that they can only live in one way - suddenly experiences a radical change that includes increased freedoms - and the accouterments that come with increased freedoms, open their minds to more possibilities - it is a Pandora's box.

Of course, I'm hoping rational readers know well that I don't consider the democracy in Iraq to be the ONLY contributing factor - that would negate many important factors.

fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 07:05 pm
In my militant times, comrade JTT would be accused of "left-wing infantilism".

To not distinguish between the people and the system is infantilism. That logic makes all Americans "enemies", does not understand the contradictions inside American society and does not help the cause (any cause, certainly not the argumentative logorreah of our poster). It only serves those who think that opposing imperialism is equivalent to losing any trace of humanism. A tool for the class enemy.
To use covert CIA operations of decades ago as an excuse for just about anything in inexcusable. If we keep on going back in history, we'd be able to condone the rape of a German woman (the Nazis), an English woman (how many crimes did those colonialists pigs commit?) or an Italian (remember those dastarly Roman emperors!).

Comrade JTT would really need to have a session of self-criticism, in front of the party cadres. But I suspect JTT's only militancy is in the waves of the Internet.



fbaezer
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 07:10 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I DO believe that when a huge, largely isolated region filled with people who have been conditioned to believe that they can only live in one way - suddenly experiences a radical change that includes increased freedoms - and the accouterments that come with increased freedoms, open their minds to more possibilities - it is a Pandora's box.


This happens in all revolutions worthy of the name.
Peasants will **** on the landowner's precious tapestry, and lumpenproletarians (thiefs, thugs, whores, any type of riff-raff) will cause havoc and confusion, because that's all they know and can do.
The task of the revolutionary leaders is to give meaning to the peasants' **** and to prevent any action or influence by the always distruction-bound lumpenproletarians.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 07:10 pm
@spendius,
*wry smile*
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