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Tunesia, Egyt and now Yemen: a domino effect in the Middle East?

 
 
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 24 Mar, 2011 04:51 pm
@JTT,
Have you ever thought of self flagellation ? Better still, self immolation .
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 24 Mar, 2011 04:53 pm
@JTT,
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Mightn't this not illustrate that at least Obama isn't
Might not this not illustrate that at least Obama is not.....feeling rather negative today are we ???
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 24 Mar, 2011 11:35 pm
@Ionus,
Wake up. CI is only stating what most of the common citizens of the middle east will say and think. And why wouldent they. After all we have been dropping bombs all over the middle east for more than 20 years.
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 24 Mar, 2011 11:53 pm
@RABEL222,
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CI is only stating what most of the common citizens of the middle east will say and think.
So we should think that too ?

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And why wouldent they.
As they come from a male dominated society right out of the middle ages, gee, I don't know, why wouldn't they ?

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After all we have been dropping bombs all over the middle east for more than 20 years.
Is your memory failing you ? Dont you remember who tried to wipe out Israel and failed repeatedly, losing more land each time they tried ? Poor poor Arabs, Allah knows they didn't have the money to resettle the Palestinians in luxury villas everyone . Who started modern terrorism ?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 12:09 am
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Cairo, Egypt (CNN) -- "Where is the revolution going, the revolution that began in Tahrir Square?" asked a short brunette holding a microphone. "What happened to the revolution we created?"
Human rights lawyer Ragia Omran repeated the question before a crowd of activists, concerned citizens and politicians from parties ranging from the Muslim Brotherhood to the secular Al Waft Party, all attending a panel discussion held aboard a dinner boat on the Nile River.
Omran was asking about a recent law that Egypt's ruling military council stood poised to approve, which would make protests a criminal offense punishable by jail time and huge fines.
According to a spokesman for the Egyptian Armed Forces, the proposed law would ban protests that "conflict with the productivity of the country."
"Those involved will be jailed and fined a minimum of 500,000 Egyptian pounds," about $83,880, Maj. Amr Imam said.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/03/24/egypt.revolution/index.html?hpt=C1

WAIT! Mubarak is gone, there must be some mistake! *sarcasm*
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 01:11 am
@RABEL222,
Maybe what he is reacting to is the "- rightfully so".
revelette
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 06:21 am
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Nato secretary-general Anders Fogh Rasmussen confirms that Nato will enforce the no-fly zone over Libya

Western allies and Turkey have secured a deal to put the entire military campaign against Muammar Gaddafi under Nato command by next week, UK and French sources have told the Guardian.

The US, Britain, France and Turkey agreed to put the three-pronged offensive – a no-fly zone, an arms embargo, and air strikes – under a Nato command umbrella, in a climbdown by France that accommodates strong Turkish complaints about the scope and control of the campaign.

The deal appeared to end days of infighting among western allies, but needed to be blessed by all 28 Nato member states. At the end of a four-day meeting of Nato ambassadors in Brussels, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the secretary general, said Nato had agreed to take command of the no-fly zone from the Americans. Disputes have raged at Nato HQ every day this week. Rasmussen contradicted leading western officials by announcing that Nato's authority was limited to commanding the no-fly zone, but he signalled there was more negotiation to come.

"At this moment, there will still be a coalition operation and a Nato operation," he said. This meant Nato would command the no-fly zone and police the arms embargo. But on the most contentious part, air strikes and ground attacks against Gaddafi, consensus remained elusive.

The agreement emerged from phone calls between William Hague, the foreign secretary, Alain Juppé, the French foreign minister, Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state, and Ahmet Davutoglu, the Turkish foreign minister, following rancorous attacks from the Turkish leadership on French ambitions to lead the anti-Gaddafi war effort.

The agreement also gives political oversight of the military action to a committee of the international coalition in the campaign. Since the no-fly zone and air attacks on Libya began last Saturday by France, Washington has been in charge of operations, but is eager to surrender the role.


source
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Irishk
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 10:03 am
The bickering on Part 2 commences on Tuesday. I wish C-Span would televise it!
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 10:15 am
@roger,
So if some country started indiscriminatly started droping bombs on your house and family you would say oh, well, thier doing it for my own good. Bull shite. Perhaps he should look at what the isralies have been doing to the pals instead of rubber stamping everything the Isralies do in the middle east. Their far from the innocents that Ionus and his ilk try to potray.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 10:42 am
@RABEL222,
The records already prove that the Israelis have killed more innocent Pals than the other way around. The reason the Pals (Hamas) tries to strike Israelis is very simple; Israelis continue to build on Pal's lands - by stealing it.

Pals have no legal recourse to get their land back. In such a situation, I may even be the perpetrator to kill people who steal land from me and my family.
Fido
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 11:04 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

You mean we'll have to be in a war because Turkey won't? No wonder they call them turkeys.
I am certain that the bird was named after them due to some confusion owing to the fact that the guinea fowl and turkey showed up in Europe at about the same time, with the G fowl coming through Turkey...
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Fido
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 11:10 am
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

So if some country started indiscriminatly started droping bombs on your house and family you would say oh, well, thier doing it for my own good. Bull shite. Perhaps he should look at what the isralies have been doing to the pals instead of rubber stamping everything the Isralies do in the middle east. Their far from the innocents that Ionus and his ilk try to potray.
It is possible that we are responsible for farm more Iraqi deaths than Saddam H. was; but since our purpose was better, we can expect a pass... Why it is that we feel we must attack a people though that people is oppressed by a tyrant in order to get rid of the tyrant is a mystery... There must be a better way than making enemies of so many victims, but on the bright side it is not nearly so bad to strike some one that is used to it instead of one who might be surprised...
Fido
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 11:12 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The records already prove that the Israelis have killed more innocent Pals than the other way around. The reason the Pals (Hamas) tries to strike Israelis is very simple; Israelis continue to build on Pal's lands - by stealing it.

Pals have no legal recourse to get their land back. In such a situation, I may even be the perpetrator to kill people who steal land from me and my family.
There is a lot of ways to buy real estate, but by far the cheapest is to purchase it with the blood of those who already own it...
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 11:45 am
@Fido,
That's been going on for so many decades, it's a wonder nobody else seems to acknowledge it. The shift in population between the Pals and Israelis have changed dramatically during the span of the past 45 years or so.

It's a crime that the US government continues to call Israel a democracy, and supports them in their crime against the Pals.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 11:48 am
@Fido,
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It is possible that we are responsible for farm more Iraqi deaths than Saddam H. was; but since our purpose was better, we can expect a pass...


You don't get a pass, you get off simply because you are the toughest gangster on the block. Your purpose was worse, much worse. You effectively destroyed a country that was doing well, you killed half a million kids with your illegal and immoral embargo.

Would it be fair for the same to happen to the US, a couple of million kids killed for lack of things essential to life? There's almost certainly no country on the planet with as many chemical/biological/evil weaponry as the US.

Why not have your economy destroyed, people die from lack of essentials, countries invade and destroy your homes and infrastructure?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 02:01 pm
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Jordan today became the latest Arab country to adopt violent repression as its response to protest – inspired, perhaps, by seeing similar tactic used by US allies like Bahrain and Yemen with little retribution from Washington.

This afternoon, police shut down a major protest camp in Amman, using water cannons. Mubarak-style thugs, widely believed to be hired by the regime, attacked the protesters with sticks and stones. Local news sources are reporting one death and nearly 100 injured.

"It was a disaster," says Fakher Daas, a leader from Jordan's Popular Unity Party who was in the camp. "They surrounded us from the four [sides], thugs and policemen and darak [riot police]. … Thugs were throwing stones from high buildings. … We ran away, but there was nowhere to run."

Later, there were multiple eyewitness reports of police surrounding hospitals and arresting patients or those trying to enter.
Source:Christian Science Monitor
roger
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 02:12 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Bull shite.


Sig line material if I ever saw any.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 02:19 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I heard the Jordanian Foreign Minister say that the one death was a heart attack. And he added "rest his soul".
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 02:23 pm
@JTT,
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countries invade and destroy your homes and infrastructure?


should have read,

your country invaded and your homes and infrastructure destroyed?
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High Seas
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 04:53 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Chancellor Merkel was wise to abstain from this latest mad foray in Moslem lands - word among her friends (sadly not you Smile) is she's been reading this:
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"........Do not try to do too much with your own hands. Better the Arabs do it tolerably than that you do it perfectly. It is their war, and you are to help them, not to win it for them. Actually, also, under the very odd conditions of Arabia, your practical work will not be as good as, perhaps, you think it is..................."
The Evolution of A Revolt (1920)
Lawrence of Arabia
 

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