@georgeob1,
I'm interested in the matter George. I follow it a good deal. It's interesting as a study in media coverage. I've not been commenting on the quotes being offered because it has become obvious than none of them mean much, if anything. I think even the ones you call hand-wringers have noticed that.
I informed the thread that an experieced middle-east diplomat had said that some of these rulers were fighting for their lives. Emphatically, or as much as a diplomat does in that line, adding "literally". And so also their loyal followers right down to those who have been lording over a neighbourhood for years in their name.
And Libya looks like one of the ones he was referring to. Fights to the death are always interesting. They often produce great leaps forward. Sometimes not.
The "insurgents" always look like they have had a good night's sleep, have showered, and are putting on a performance for the cameras in between lunch and dinner. Of course I regret the deaths and injuries but this propaganda battle isn't as clean as our's are. Not now I mean. I imagine there's blue-on-blue all over the place. Everytime somebody is carried into hospital it is just assumed that Gadaffi did it. It doesn't matter that he probably did.
We know these countries and their people. They are not like us. Not yet.