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Tunesia, Egyt and now Yemen: a domino effect in the Middle East?

 
 
revelette
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2011 07:51 am
Quote:
A day after the BBC described the abuse of three of its journalists by forces loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, the Guardian reports that one of its correspondents has gone missing in the same area of Libya.

The reporter, Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, was last seen on Sunday on the outskirts of the town of Zawiyah, the town about 30 miles outside the capital, Tripoli, where rebels and government forces have fought fierce battles in recent days. It is also the same area where the BBC reporters were arrested on Monday.

“The Guardian has been in contact with Libyan government officials in Tripoli and London and asked them to urgently give all assistance in the search for Abdul-Ahad and to establish if he is in the custody of the authorities,” the paper said. He was traveling with Andrei Netto of the Brazilian newspaper Estado, the Guardian reported, who is also missing.

Reporters, especially those who accepted an invitation from Colonel Qaddafi to come to Tripoli, have chafed under what they see as manipulation by the Libyan government, seeking to break free of its restrictions to report on events on the ground. As Reporters Without Borders writes:

Gaddafi’s regime uses doublespeak with regard to these journalists. He has invited them because he needs them to spread his propaganda, but his attitude to them is hateful and contemptible. He accuses them of spreading false information on what is happening in Libya and has no qualms about referring to them as “stray dogs.”

Those who operate without government authorization are said to be considered Al Qaeda accomplices by forces loyal to Colonel Qaddafi.


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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2011 03:35 pm
Interest in this thread and the recent successes Ghadaffi's forces appear to be having in some regions of Libya appears to be waning.

Meanwhile the much touted "international community" appears to be having a very hard time either agreeing on the necessity for action or determining what it should be and who should do it. Neither the Arab League or the Organization of African nations - groups that apparently do have political and economic interests in the region and in Libya - have expressed any position or concern about the fate of the protesters or the political situation in Libya, a member state in both organizations. The much-touted UN Human Rights Organization has said nothing either.

The United States is not interested in yet another intervention in the Muslim world, or any more of the back biting we get for these things. Apparently some efforts by our government are underway to stimulate some form of multilateral intervention, but signs of progress are very few.

Apparently all the hand-wringers are off to other issues.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2011 04:17 pm
@georgeob1,
I'm interested in the matter George. I follow it a good deal. It's interesting as a study in media coverage. I've not been commenting on the quotes being offered because it has become obvious than none of them mean much, if anything. I think even the ones you call hand-wringers have noticed that.

I informed the thread that an experieced middle-east diplomat had said that some of these rulers were fighting for their lives. Emphatically, or as much as a diplomat does in that line, adding "literally". And so also their loyal followers right down to those who have been lording over a neighbourhood for years in their name.

And Libya looks like one of the ones he was referring to. Fights to the death are always interesting. They often produce great leaps forward. Sometimes not.

The "insurgents" always look like they have had a good night's sleep, have showered, and are putting on a performance for the cameras in between lunch and dinner. Of course I regret the deaths and injuries but this propaganda battle isn't as clean as our's are. Not now I mean. I imagine there's blue-on-blue all over the place. Everytime somebody is carried into hospital it is just assumed that Gadaffi did it. It doesn't matter that he probably did.

We know these countries and their people. They are not like us. Not yet.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 10 Mar, 2011 09:12 pm
In another place and another time the Shah of Iran was accused of Human Rights violation. Ayatolla Khomeni was in Paris. The Shah was ousted and we got Khomeni instead. A lot better in human rights violation.
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Irishk
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2011 12:23 pm
Saudis thinkin' about letting the wimmins drive
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2011 04:13 pm
@Irishk,
It's a big mistake. They must be really rattled.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2011 05:08 pm
@Irishk,
Next thing you know, they'll start letting women walk around without their burkas.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2011 05:10 pm
@spendius,
Big mistake indeed. A hundred years ago they weren't even walking on their hind legs. Now, the want to rule the world.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2011 06:05 pm
I bet all the journalists in Libya are a bit disgruntled about having the stories they've filed today being spiked. I wonder if Gadaffi took advantage.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2011 06:29 pm
@spendius,
Spendius do you think that this man knows what he is talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N9JnDrRQYc
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2011 06:53 pm
My Summary of Qaddafi's pronouncements :

A few rebels are attacking citizens
The rebels have been beaten back by loyalist forces
The rebels are Al Qauda
There are no rebels
The rebels have been crushed and only a few remain
The rebels are insurgents sent by the West
The rebels are anti-Libya

You cant get stand-up comedy that bizarre.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 11 Mar, 2011 07:14 pm
@Ionus,
Like most of the time you seem to get it right when you are not cussing people out! LOL

What do you think about this man, is he speaking the truth and if not what is he wrong about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VxLxE1kcCs
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 04:34 am
@reasoning logic,
No.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 06:30 am
@spendius,
I take it you do not like small thought experiments about people power?
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revelette
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 08:15 am
My interest has not waned, I am just waiting to see what is going to transpires next now that Gadhafi has retaken the towns. I have been keeping up on the web but I have a grown a bit weary of just posting news from BBC or the like and reading snide comments from our resident cynic.

Rebels forces opposed to Libyan leader Colonel Gaddafi have been forced out of the northern oil town of Ras Lanuf, reports say.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 02:21 pm
Today's news includes reports that the Arab League has issued an appeal to the UN for the extablishment of a "no Fly" zone over Libya - a welcome development in my view. Whether the UN will act favorably on the request is uncertain. However, I believe we should welcome their proposal and suggest to the Saudis & Syrians that they forward base some of their fighters in Egypt, and the Algerians, some of theirs in Tunis ... and get started - they really don't need anyone else's assistance -- or permission for that matter.
spendius
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 03:07 pm
@georgeob1,
I'm not too keen on ideas like that George and I'm doubtful whether those you volunteer will be.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 04:21 pm
@spendius,
I doubt that the Arab league is expecting to do either this or anything else like it for itself. However, why would you object to their doing so? Will the UK volunteer?
talk72000
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 04:22 pm
@georgeob1,
They don't want to risk their soldiers as the Middle East unrest may be at their own doorsteps. The whole region is ready for upheaval.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 04:25 pm
@georgeob1,
I don't know. I don't think it a simple enough problem for quick fixes no matter how busy they make people sound who float them off on the breath. Qualified of course.
 

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