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Tunesia, Egyt and now Yemen: a domino effect in the Middle East?

 
 
JPB
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 07:39 am
Ransom payments made to allow Brits to leave Tripoli? Today's live blog

9:41am GMT: Sky News is reporting that the UK "paid bribes to evacuate Britons".

Sources have confirmed that substantial payments were made to Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's regime in Tripoli to evacuate British nationals from the capital city.

Libya still controls its own airspace so if any government wants to land in the country, permission must be sought from Libyan officials.

10:25am: The Foreign Office has issued a strong rebuttal to Sky News's claims that it "paid bribes to evacuate Britons".

A spokesman said:

We categorically deny Sky News's accusation earlier that British officials have paid bribes to Libyan officials. Officials at Tripoli airport charge fees for services such as aircraft handling. These charges are applied to all countries and carriers seeking to fly in or out of Tripoli airport. In the current situation these fees have increased. Like those countries and carriers we have had to pay them – the alternative being to leave hundreds of British nationals stranded in Tripoli. Paying charges levied by the authorities at a foreign airport is not bribery.

Sky News has changed the headline on its story, which this morning read "Libya: UK Paid Bribes To Evacuate Britons', to "Libya: UK Paid Officials To Evacuate Brits."
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revelette
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 09:05 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
You seem to have a big as bug up your sleeve as does JTT.

It is good that the would be terrorist was caught and local and federal agencies worked together together to stop him.
revelette
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 09:11 am
Gadhafi militia open fire on Libya protesters

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Militias loyal to Moammar Gadhafi opened fire on protesters streaming out of mosques in the Libyan capital on Friday, demanding the regime's ouster, witnesses said, reporting at least four killed. Across rebellious cities in the east, tens of thousands held rallies in support of the first Tripoli protests in days.

Protesters chanting for Gadhafi's ouster streamed out of mosques near downtown Tripoli's Green Square and other districts after prayers, and they were confronted by troops and militiamen who opened fire, said several witnesses. Gunmen on rooftops in streets near the square shot down on marchers, they said.

One witness reported seeing three protesters killed in the Souq al-Jomaa area near the square, and another reported a fourth death in another district, Fashloum. The reports could not be immediately confirmed.

"There are all kind of bullets," said one protester near the Souq al-Jomaa, screaming in a telephone call to The Associated Press, with the rattle of shots audible in the background.

"The situation is chaotic in parts of Tripoli now," said another witness, who was among marchers in adjacent Algeria Square and said he saw militiamen firing in the air. Armed Gadhafi supporters were also speeding through some streets in vehicles, he said. Residents hiding in their homes also reported the sound of gunfire in other parts of the capital.

The call for regime opponents march from mosques after prayers was the first attempt to hold a major anti-Gadhafi rally in the capital since militiamen launched a bloody crackdown on marchers early in the week that left dozens dead. SMS messages were sent around urging, "Let us make this Friday the Friday of liberation," residents said. The residents and witnesses all spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.




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revelette
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 09:15 am
Emergency NATO, UN Meetings To Respond To Crisis In Libya

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International efforts to respond to the crisis in Libya gathered pace on Friday, as forces loyal to embattled leader Moammer Gaddafi continued brutal repression of anti-government protests in that North African country.

The U.N. Human Rights Council (UNHRC) has begun meeting in emergency session in Geneva to discuss the crisis. Libyan ambassador to the UN did not reportedly turn up.

NATO Secretary-General has convened an emergency meeting of the North Atlantic Council on Friday afternoon to consult among member-states on the "fast-moving situation" in Libya.

The U.N. Security Council is expected to meet later on Friday in New York to consider further action, possibly sanctions, against the authoritarian regime in Tripoli.

The UNHRC is expected to demand Libya's expulsion - an unprecedented move against a member state - from the global body that champions protection of universal human rights, the BBC reported.

UNHRC Commissioner Navi Pillay condemned the Gaddafi regime's use of violence against unarmed protesters as "crimes against humanity."

She said reports from Libya, where access to media is severely restricted, indicated that thousands might have been killed or injured as the government crackdown escalated "alarmingly."

U.S. President Barack Obama has been in consultations with the leaders of Britain, France and Italy as part of seeking consensus on actions, and suggested a range of possible measures, from humanitarian assistance to sanctions.



JPB
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 09:38 am
@revelette,
3:32pm – Libya: The entire Libyan mission to the UN in Geneva has quit, reports AP. Its second secretary asked the human rights council – discussing the possible suspension of his country for Gaddafi's war on its citizens – to stand for a moment of silence to "honour this revolution".

Council members gave him a standing ovation for what they called an act of courage. Most of Libya's delegation at the UN in New York abandoned the regime and called on Gaddafi to step down on Monday.

Libya's ambassadors to France and Unesco, the UN's Paris-based educational, scientific and cultural organisation, have also quit and condemned the violence.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 10:07 am
@JPB,
But them quitting and honouring the revolution and all the rest of it is just an attempt to ****, shave and shower their own records and come up smelling of roses. They just want to be on the side that's winning.

Pass the sick bag Alice.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 10:17 am
@JPB,
The only thing Gaddafi wants is someone to dress him.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 10:52 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
But he can be a force for Good when he issues a fatwa for the murder of someone we actually want to die. Twisted Evil

GREAT line. Laughing
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 10:55 am
@spendius,
I don't even know where to star with this. I'd have loved to have seen it. Do you know any identifying info - so that I might look around for it?

The show was "Newsnight"? It doesn't ring a bell....what network...? por favor.
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 10:58 am
@revelette,
Oh revelette! C'mon now!! NObody has suffers from a bug the size of JTT's.

You really must recant to retain any semblance of credibility.

Wink
Rockhead
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 10:59 am
@Lash,
no, they are not in the same league, but they are similarly afflicted...
revelette
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 11:23 am
@JPB,
So the Libyan UN council were there at the UN council or did they ask for a moment of silence by some other means of communication?

I am glad that people are recognizing that people are getting killed and something needs to be done to intervene to help save some lives. I just hope it is more than just talk. In the best of all worlds, Gaddafi and his supporters would just quit and seek asylum somewhere. But I don't really think that is going to happen. In any event Gaddafi has committed crimes against humanitarian laws in this crack down so something has to be done with him even if he does step down. Libya is a member of the UN but has not signed its contract.

Quote:
(ANSAmed) - ROME, FEBRUARY 25 - ''The most likely crime that Gaddafi could be charged with is crimes against humanity, on the basis of what one can read,'' underscored Cuno Tarfusser, judge at the International Criminal Court at the Hague, who spoke on Radio 24 on the possibility of bringing charges against Gaddafi at the Court. ''The court bases its jurisdiction - and therefore its powers to rule on those accused of crimes against humanity, war crimes and genocide - on a 'contract' between States, the Rome Statute. Only citizens of the States which have signed this contract can be prosecuted. So far 114 States out of 192 have signed it and Libya is not among the latter. Therefore, we can do nothing of our own initiative. However, there are two paths to enable us to take action: the first is that Libya itself agree to the jurisdiction, and this might happen only in the case of a new government. The second would be a decision by the UN Security Council, a resolution that would invest us with authority, as occurred in the case of Sudan.'' (ANSAmed).


source
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 11:30 am
@revelette,
OK, I like that the ICC is going to see if they have any power - but why are they so brave about ramrod-ing Qaddafi - but casting a blind eye to the same things that happened in Egypt?

Why aren't they investigating the "pro-Mubarak" forces and finding out if Homes Hosni was behind the murder....and more importantly - What are they doing about Darfur??

Justice....hmph.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 11:51 am
@revelette,
The "bug" Rev, which you've done everything possible to avoid taking an honest look at or discussing is the deaths of some 6 million people, the destruction of numerous countries that has caused untold suffering for millions upon millions more, a stinginess from the world's richest country that would astound any person with a modicum of morality.

All this from, you guessed it, the USA.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 11:59 am
@Lash,
You speak of credibility, Lash. That's rich. You, Finn and Gob, retreated to "ignore" when you three found that not everyone is willing to suffer you vomiting perfidy.

Quote:
NObody has suffers from a bug the size of JTT's.


Take your time, Lash. This kind of mental confusion points up your irrational anger.


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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 12:08 pm
@Lash,
It might be on BBC i-player but I don't know if that's available to you. Newsnight is BBC2's "flagship" current affairs feechewer. Surely you have heard of Jeremy Paxman?
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 12:10 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
Justice....hmph.


Justice indeed.

Sixty years of brutal terrorism perpetrated against Cuba.

Justice....hmph.

Why aren't they investigating the US "pro-Mubarak" forces and finding out how many people he tortured and murdered for the CIA/US government?

Justice....hmph.

Ramrodding Qaddafi helps to take the eye off US involvement in all these brutal dictatorships. How do you continue to miss this? It seems as if you are willfully diverting attention away from US misdeeds by pointing up others misdeeds. That wouldn't be it, now would it, Lash?

Justice....hmph.

Why hasn't the US cleaned up all the land mines and cluster bombs that it left spread all over Laos and Cambodia, the ones that maim people constantly, 40 years after they illegally bombed the **** out of innocents?

Justice....hmph.

This could go on for pages, Lash. The disquieting thing about all this is that you know this but still you go on with your diversions, providing cover for US war crimes, US perfidy, US brutality by pointing to bit players on the world scene.

That's positively Gobian, which is the same thing as morally reprehensible.
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 12:14 pm
@spendius,
Yes--it is available. I think Feb 23 rd is the one but I'm not certain.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 01:12 pm
@spendius,
Naw.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2011 02:08 pm
@Lash,
If I have time tomorrow I'll look it up and get the exact words and the guy's name.
 

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