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Thread For Christians and Other People Who Believe in a Higher Spiritual Power

 
 
snood
 
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 07:29 am
This thread was created as a place for Christians and others who believe that there is a higher Spiritual Power to talk about issues that have to do with us living our lives as Christians and others who believe in a Higher Spiritual Power. Would appreciate it if atheists and agnostics do not visit. This is definitely not , I repeat, NOT a thread for bashing atheists or agnostics (although we all have experienced and like to avoid their bitter, cynical, ignorant, self-centered blather).















(just kidding - but that's about how I see their "Atheists" thread)
 
djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 07:43 am
Thread For Christians and Other People Who Believe in a Higher Spiritual Power

while going through a container in the closet the other day, i found a box of full of spools of thread i'll probably never use, i'll leave it on a table by the side of the road, any christian or other person who believes in a higher spiritual power, please, feel free to come by and pick it up, hope this helps

(for security reasons i can't post my address, but i'm sure a quick prayer should sort things out for you)
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 09:29 am
While I don't intend to ruin your thread or attack people who'd like to talk here - I have to tell you I'm really surprised that you start this thing with such a mean-spirited slap against other people....your "Christian thread."

And, I recall several threads where atheists and agnostics wanted to focus on a few issues - and were constantly harassed by "Christians," including you.

This is the kind of behavior that gives Christianity its bad reputation.

Anyway, if you don't engage me, I've said my piece.

peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 11:19 pm
@snood,
Im sorry I want to learn. What exactly is the difference between a Christian and evreyone else? Shouldnt anyone be able to read your teachings? Or is it for a select few?
George
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 08:19 am
@peter jeffrey cobb,
Snood titled the thread:
Thread For Christians and Other People Who Believe in a Higher Spiritual Power
Not just for Christians.
You may read whatever you want.
You have my permission.
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George
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 08:23 am
I think belief starts within; it can't be imposed from without.
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peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 09:09 am
@peter jeffrey cobb,
I read parts of a Book one time, well it is a realy was real cool book. It was about this crazzy person comin into town riding a donkey. Hah and crownds talked about him riding a donkey and talking like he was somekind of teacher. He said we were all Gods children, Can you imagine that.. he talked about peace and loving each other,,,,, hah are always at war...... that willl be day...... yet he insisted in teaching to who ever would listen. Even if it meant his death. Wow it is realy is a good book. Now if i just can remember the name of it, Smile
George
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 10:30 am
@peter jeffrey cobb,
Don Quixote?
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 11:58 am
@Lash,
Although you've not addressed me, I will engage you (at least to the extent of how much time is available for me to post in this forum, which is limited). I haven't read the threads you've referred to word for word; I've only glanced at them. The impression that I have received, though, seems to be that there's a lack of civility on both sides. Of course, I guess you could say that lack of civility is characteristic of board messaging in general. Ironically, this hi-tech means of communication also has the potential for creating misunderstandings. A single statement (which, for example, could be spoken in either a sympathetic tone or a mocking tone) can be misunderstood because voice intonation is absent, along with facial expression and body posture. If you cited specific examples of what you object, I probably would agree with you, even though I'm not an atheist. And to avoid a misunderstanding from the very start, I don't know what your views are regarding any spiritual issues; so, I'll be careful to not make any assumptions.
peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 01:33 pm
@George,
I always wanted to read that one.... Its there a movie out yet on the book? Smile
JPB
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 01:37 pm
@peter jeffrey cobb,
The Man of LaMancha
peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 02:05 pm
@JPB,
Uhh never heard that one. Any good?
JPB
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 02:10 pm
@peter jeffrey cobb,
Wonderful! It's a musical based on the play.



peter jeffrey cobb
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 02:43 pm
@JPB,
Loved it Smile Verry grandios. Smile
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 02:49 pm
Rosinante was a nag.
George
 
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Reply Wed 26 Jan, 2011 02:49 pm
@dyslexia,
Nay
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2011 01:12 am
@wmwcjr,
LOL!! Trust me - it wasn't 'intonation'! (smiling) There's quite an explicit lack of civility among the Pro - and Anti - Jesus crowds here.

Nice to speak to you.

I am a former Jesus Lover. I was rather sad to suddenly be unable to believe the stories any longer.
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2011 10:44 am
@Lash,
Good morning/afternoon/evening (depending upon when you read this, of course).

I’m afraid the lack of civility is not restricted to the pro- and anti-Jesus crowds. My sister once told me of a blog she read that was devoted to the subject of breeding dogs (which you would think would not elicit much emotion) that degenerated into an exchange of name-calling.

Just to briefly summarize my own position: I am a Christian, but I’m not overbearing because I’ve been cognizant of my own shortcomings for many years (actually, for most of my life). Several of my closest friends include guys whose political or spiritual views have differed from my own or whose backgrounds are considerably different. I have cherished these relationships.

You say that you’re unable to believe stories about Jesus anymore. I might be able to relate to that, although my own spiritual journey has taken me in the opposite direction. I was raised in a theologically liberal mainstream denomination by my parents. Their congregation was a country club church whose membership was exclusively affluent. I was appalled by the hypocrisy there. I was actually bullied in my grade’s so-called Sunday morning Bible class for about five years. Yes, I kid you not. I could go into more details, but I shall spare you. When I was a sophomore in high school, I stopped attending that church. Thankfully, my parents did not force me to continue attending. Incidentally, both my mother and my sister got fed up with them, too.

As a result of the hypocrisy at my parents’ church, I became an agnostic for ten years. When I was 26, my best friend (who also was a refuge from our parents’ church) invited me to another church where he and his wife were members. This church was very conservative theologically and morally, but did not bind political conservatism upon its members. I soon noticed that the conduct of the members of this church was honorable and quite conscientious and that they did not engage in the sort of rank hypocrisy that I had witnessed at my parents’ church. I became a Christian before the year ended.

I’d be interested to hear if you have any specific reasons for your own change. I might be able to relate to that. I might have an answer for you; but, then again, I might not. Just remember that I don’t go around looking down on people if they happen to disagree with me. (Of course, there is a difference between disagreeing with someone’s views and personally attacking him.) I believe very strongly in the old adage of walking a mile in the other guy’s shoes.
Lash
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2011 05:41 pm
@wmwcjr,
Hi,

I have a desire not to muck up the intent of this thread more than I have already. If you'd like to have this discussion in a different location, I'll join you there.

Nice to meet you, so to speak.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 27 Jan, 2011 06:15 pm
@dyslexia,



Quote:
Rosinante was a nag.


  http://www.pauahtun.org/Misc/Rocinante_00001.jpg                                       She was only a six but I wouldnt call her a nag
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