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You are the only one who is 'alive'.............

 
 
vikorr
 
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Reply Wed 16 Feb, 2011 06:32 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Yes, I realised Smile

He's also avoided requests to justify his other positions (calling me slippery, and explaining what he finds wrong with testing a theory against the whole).

And he calls me slippery Laughing
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JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 07:36 pm
@vikorr,
You have taken your 'fear' of not wanting to be like other people and be your own person in an un-productive direction. Instead of dumping all of that 'fear' on this forum, why not take it and use it productively in your own life? Why not use it to open up some possibilities that 'they' were closing down for you? Sending texts on a computer to 'others' and defending what you text is simply not going to provide any resolution or open up any possibilities for you. All you're doing is taking away a beautiful possibility and turning it in a direction of an 'what ought to be' for others. Basically all you're doing is finding the 'mistakes' you've made in your life up to this point and burdening others with proving the resolution you refuse to see. By requiring 'proof' for what others say, you throw up a 'game' which only you know the rules to. There is astounding truth and beauty to be seen in each one of Dasein's posts and he is merely pointing toward a possiblity for you, see he is already free and could probably careless. Stop looking at other people and putting your mistakes on them and burdening them with providing you with your own resolution.

You are already 'free' my friend, you always were. In fact you are probably so 'free' that you don't even know what to do with it or can only put up 'cages' for your 'self' and 'others'.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 07:49 pm
@JPLosman0711,
You must believe yourself a telepath to have any insight into Dasein´s delirium...at least bring your own "theory´s" up instead of following others imagination...just an advice.
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Thu 17 Feb, 2011 07:57 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
There is no other 'advice' for me or anyone else to follow. The words I read on this forum are read by me, 'interpreted' by me and also either 'accepted or rejected' by me.

To be honest, I think it's just to 'difficult' for most people to handle that they are literally 'on their own' in this life and always will be. You need to stop looking at his 'words' and categorizing them into societies' understandable/provable/safe lables and see them for what they are. Otherwise you're just wasting you're time.
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Dasein
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 09:06 am
@JPLosman0711,
JPL;

There are only 4 ways of speaking that humans, Be-ing have to move a conversation forward.
1) A Declaration
2) An Assertion
3) A Request
4) A Promise

All the rest of it is 'fill'. Don't take that the wrong way. We do need the 'fill'.

Requests & Promises don't need to be explained. The confusion happens between Declarations and Assertions. Declarations open up possibilities and Assertions require proof.

Most people demand that you supply 'proof' for a declaration before they will contemplate moving off their 'position'. They don't want to see the possibility and they really don't want to move off of their position. Even if you were able to provide proof for the Declaration, 99.999% of the time they will "chew it up and spit it back in your face" because they really don't want to be 'free' as you put it and there is nothing that you or I can do about it.

They need to be able to touch the walls of the maze they've created and 'prove' that they're safe in Plato's cave. The maze gives them comfort and predictability where there is none. Even though they are 'free' as you put it, they are not capable of stepping out into the clearing, they lack to courage to do so.

Making the leap into Be-ing and not relying on the world's measurability and definability to prove your existence dumps everything into your lap. You no longer have any excuses for the way it is. It takes courage to eliminate all avenues of escape and to be response-able for all of it.

I am writing a book. It will be available for Kindle and eReaders from Barnes & Noble and Amazon.com. Re-connect to Skype and send me your email address. I will notify you when the book is available.

Your writing has changed. Congratulations! Keep up the good work.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 09:47 am
@Dasein,
You probably given your discourse on proof and scientific knowledge live in a cave...a matter of coherence I suppose otherwise you are just a 21 century modern hypocrite who preaches something and lives and rely´s precisely in the opposite stance...
...but that´s not all...furthermore what I find absolutely amazing in your speech is the sheer arrogance of your convictions, half a dozen of sound bytes without much support or justification...you simple use words that you probably don´t even care to understand onto a deep level, and that in fact don´t carry much meaning but into the vaguest possible fashion...I suppose you don´t act the same way when you buy a house or take care of your banking account...and that´s why no one with two fingers of size in its front head (Portuguese figure of speech) can possible take you seriously !
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 10:20 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
You're such a waste of time.
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Dasein
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 10:22 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
You better get some more glue, you're beginning to come apart. And that's a good thing!
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 10:36 am
@Dasein,
Yes I believe Alan Watts said something along the lines of when one runs into the wall enough times he will learn to go around it.

Think I got that quote wrong but you know what I mean.
Dasein
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 10:59 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
Seriously Filipe;
If you don't like what I'm writing why don't you just stop reading and reacting to what I write? Have you no self control?

You and Vikorr have way too much emotional energy invested in disagreeing with me and disputing what I write. There is a clue in there for both of you to see.

All human upset is caused by unfulfilled expectations. It could be that the position you've taken doesn't serve you any longer and that's why you're upset.

Go to my profile page and click on "Ignore User". Save yourself from the upset.
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 11:41 am
@Dasein,
You and your follower right there don´t have neither the intelligence nor the knowledge to even start to understand at what I am at...actually most in this forum don´t...and those who eventually do are not available to change their line of thinking either because they have something to loose or simply because they feel comfortable with the old know ideas that they have...could n´t care less...your reasoning, just like many others around, is the type that goes half way through and comes to a halt by lacking the rightful concepts as tools for understanding...your conceptual world is old and attains nothing but some poetry and half insights...besides you are to impressed with yourself to even realize the gross mistake in which you have fallen...I honestly petty you as bottom line you even seam a nice person, but that damn arrogant attitude won´t lead you far...such is life.

(and before you even start to imply I am the arrogant around, mind that this post is a reply to all your preaching day in day out around the place as if you were the patentor of truth...you simply seam a character right out of a Da Vinci´s code book !)
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 11:59 am
@Fil Albuquerque,
You do realize that all of that which was stated in your post was said to 'no one' but.............guess who?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 12:22 pm
@JPLosman0711,
...my "dear friend" my problem around the place is lacking the "energy" or commitment for the effort of transcribing to words the arguments to smash piece by piece and word by word most pathetic and foolish views posted around...you know what that say´s about me ? I tell you in case you did n´t notice yet...it all comes down to have any regard or consideration for the capacity, the wisdom, and the sheer acute Intelligence of those who participate in it...the fact is that mostly I don´t have any...it all sounds old and boring and dry...technocrats and bureaucrats rule the place with old paradigms and dualisms...they are no philosophers...not even in a second order of knowledge like the scientist most claim to be or to stand for...at best they grasp at a superficial level the Occidental History of Thought as it was taught to them in school...they remind me the academics that Luthero used to so boldly and promptly criticise...they spit mediocrity in every thought they post...of course, all very well served in a perfect composed English full of silliness and arrogance...words and sentences that are all dress and no substance ! A laugh !
Dasein
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 12:37 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Again, you should go to my profile page and click on "Ignore User" instead of expending so much energy trying to dispute what I am writing.
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Dasein
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 12:39 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
I find it interesting that you have the audacity to think anybody is taking your rant seriously.
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Dasein
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 12:43 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Some people don't. They just keep running into it and screaming "I'm right, I'm right, I know I'm right"!

Remember the old adage "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different result".
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 12:47 pm
@Dasein,
Yes, however I can 'feel' for him as I know what he's 'going through'.

Insanity's just another part of the process, you just have to know when you're insane.
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 01:08 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Oh boy, oh boy...that tops it all !
The Irony of the moment "popping" as you say, into "existence" !
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vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 05:29 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Quote:
You have taken your 'fear' of not wanting to be like other people and be your own person in an un-productive direction. Instead of dumping all of that 'fear' on this forum, why not take it and use it productively in your own life? Why not use it to open up some possibilities that 'they' were closing down for you? Sending texts on a computer to 'others' and defending what you text is simply not going to provide any resolution or open up any possibilities for you. All you're doing is taking away a beautiful possibility and turning it in a direction of an 'what ought to be' for others. Basically all you're doing is finding the 'mistakes' you've made in your life up to this point and burdening others with proving the resolution you refuse to see. By requiring 'proof' for what others say, you throw up a 'game' which only you know the rules to. There is astounding truth and beauty to be seen in each one of Dasein's posts and he is merely pointing toward a possiblity for you, see he is already free and could probably careless. Stop looking at other people and putting your mistakes on them and burdening them with providing you with your own resolution.

You are already 'free' my friend, you always were. In fact you are probably so 'free' that you don't even know what to do with it or can only put up 'cages' for your 'self' and 'others'.
This was one of the funnier posts I've ever read. The amount of assumption in it was truly memorable.

Btw, did you ever notice that I have not asked you to 'prove' anything, but to test your theory against the whole ? And despite all your attempts at sidetracking, you still can't articulate what is wrong with that.
Dasein wrote:
If you don't like what I'm writing why don't you just stop reading and reacting to what I write? Have you no self control?

You and Vikorr have way too much emotional energy invested in disagreeing with me and disputing what I write. There is a clue in there for both of you to see.
This too created a laugh...for both the assumption, and the irony of your continued posts (when measured against your own standards).

The bemusing thing is, you come here implying other people lack intelligence when you come up with so much assumed and hypocritical (by your own standards) drivel (like the above), combined with an inability to articulate what you find wrong with testing a theory against the whole, and a great deal of distraction techniques and deliberately erroneous 'logic'.
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2011 06:12 pm
@vikorr,
What 'theory' and against what 'whole'? If you interpret these words as 'sidetracking', well then you aren't 'hearing' them - you're using them to 'compare notes' with what you already know and then 'reporting back' the 'flaws' you found.(Your previous post) It is not my 'job' to articulate anything to you, if you've found something 'wrong' with what I've posted(or anything you read/see/hear) it is because you have found insecurity in the 'ground' you are standing on and are attempting to use 'me' as a tool to make a decision as to whether you should 'move' or not.

These are just words on a computer screen, if 'you' feel the need to 'correct' them, then who's really in need of 'correcting' here?
 

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