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The worlds first riddle!

 
 
raprap
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2005 11:06 am
least # of balls --8
Wendy's right answer is 15
Jon pays $24

Rap
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yitwail
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2005 11:14 am
Try, how thoughtful of you to remark on my achievement of the 2000 post milesone. i couldn't have done it without threads such as this. Razz

What number comes next in the pattern, and why
2, 3, 6, 15, 42, _____ Question

123

2 + 3/3 = 3
3 + 3 = 6
6 + 3x3 = 15
15 + 3x3x3 = 42
42 + 3x3x3x3 = 123

i may have seen this elsewhere already, but i calculated it anew.
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raprap
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2005 11:31 am
Neat yitwail

if F(0)=2 then
F(n)=F(n-1)+3^(n-1)

the sequence becomes
n f(n)
0 2
1 3
2 6
3 15
4 42
5 123
6 366
7 1095
8 3282
9 9843
10 29526
etal.

Rap
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2005 01:45 pm
JON
$311
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yitwail
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2005 01:56 pm
I am something people count on,
But I'm not your fingers or toes.
I am the comfort in your heart,
When your mind's not sure it knows.
People often call me blind,
For I have no eyes to see.
Several times I have been lost,
But I cannot be given away.

What am I Question

friendship, perhaps
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raprap
 
  1  
Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2005 03:12 pm
Arithmetic error.

Jon pays $21 (I wrote a spreadsheet)

Jon owes $386 and gets $5 credit for every $25. So the first reduction is
Int(386/25)=15 Remander of 11 so he pays $(15*20+11)=$311

But under the rules this is greater than $25 and he gets a further reduction, and the second reduction is Int(311/25)=12 with a remainder of 11 so he pays $(12*20+11)=251

This is repeated until he finally owes less than $25. This takes 15 reductions and by my spreadsheet it figgered as

red/ amt/ n(386/25)/ rem/ n*20+rem
1 386 15 11 311
2 311 12 11 251
3 251 10 1 201
4 201 8 1 161
5 161 6 11 131
6 131 5 6 106
7 106 4 6 86
8 86 3 11 71
9 71 2 21 61
10 61 2 11 51
11 51 2 1 41
12 41 1 16 36
13 36 1 11 31
14 31 1 6 26
15 26 1 1 21

Finally after the 15 reduction the amount owed is less than $25

Rap
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Tryagain
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 05:42 am
The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof is inborn in us.


Francis:
This can't make me weak, my name is Wallace...

(Adrian for Try) Shocked

Would that be William Wallace the Scots outlaw? You are more cryptic than Adrian. BTW have you seen him lately? I miss his quips. Crying or Very sad


Rap:

least # of balls --8 Cool *
Wendy's right answer is 15 Cool
Jon pays $24 Shocked


* I have 7 but do not have access to my notes. 8 does seem right though.


Yitwail wrote, "Try, how thoughtful of you to remark on my achievement of the 2000 post milesone. i couldn't have done it without threads such as this." Shocked

Don't blame me, that only accounts for about six. :wink:

I am something people count on,
But I'm not your fingers or toes.
I am the comfort in your heart,
When your mind's not sure it knows.
People often call me blind,
For I have no eyes to see.
Several times I have been lost,
But I cannot be given away.

What am I ?

friendship, perhaps Cool
I like that answer. I have ?'Faith'

What number comes next in the pattern, and why
2, 3, 6, 15, 42, _____

123 Cool

2 + 3/3 = 3
3 + 3 = 6
6 + 3x3 = 15
15 + 3x3x3 = 42
42 + 3x3x3x3 = 123

Kool! Laughing


One of the Rap twins wrote:
if F(0)=2 then
F(n)=F(n-1)+3^(n-1)

the sequence becomes
n f(n)
0 2
1 3
2 6
3 15
4 42
5 123
6 366
7 1095
8 3282
9 9843
10 29526
etal.


Very Kool! Cool



Jon's total charges at a local restaurant came to $386 last month. If he receives $5 off for each $25 that he spends, how much money did he have to pay?

Mark:
JON
$311 Cool

Before you ask, I am still struggling with the Whim problem. I have tried just about every permutation (except for the correct one). However, I am still convinced no other solution exists. Time will tell.
Thank you, stability returns. Or does it!

Rap:
Jon owes $386 and gets $5 credit for every $25. So the first reduction is
Int(386/25)=15 Remander of 11 so he pays $(15*20+11)=$311 Cool

So far we all agree. Then:

But under the rules this is greater than $25 and he gets a further reduction, and the second reduction is Int(311/25)=12 with a remainder of 11 so he pays $(12*20+11)=251

This is repeated until he finally owes less than $25. This takes 15 reductions and by my spreadsheet it figgered as

red/ amt/ n(386/25)/ rem/ n*20+rem
1 386 15 11 311
2 311 12 11 251
3 251 10 1 201
4 201 8 1 161
5 161 6 11 131
6 131 5 6 106
7 106 4 6 86
8 86 3 11 71
9 71 2 21 61
10 61 2 11 51
11 51 2 1 41
12 41 1 16 36
13 36 1 11 31
14 31 1 6 26
15 26 1 1 21

Finally after the 15 reduction the amount owed is less than $25 Shocked


Jon pays $21 Shocked Drunk

Well, that puts a spanner in the works. I think I will have to eat at this place. Great value and talking about value:


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Add two and fewer there will be.

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Give me drink and I die.

I am Question


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As cold as death;
Never thirsty, ever drinking,
All in mail never clinking.

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Phew, if I have missed a response, tough luck I'm on holiday. Cool
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 08:12 am
# BALLS
It is 7. The first six could have been split 2/2/2.

ROCKER
$5000

ODD NUMBER
4005

THREE NUMBERS
30

EXCHANGED DIGITS
125

WORD
few

FOOD/DRINK
fire?
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raprap
 
  1  
Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 09:28 am
Chair $5000 8850/100*$5000=$442,500 It musta been that Maloof chair

2003rd odd number is 4005=2(2003)-1

middle # is 30
x+y+z=98
x=2/3y y=5/8z so x=2/3*5/8z=10/24z
10/24z+5/8z+z=25/24z=98
so z=48 and y=5/8*48=30

125 or 521
(ABC)(CBA)=65125
AC*10000+B(A+C)*1000+(A^2+B^2+C^2)*100+B(A+C)*10+AC=65125
so AC=n*10+5 and AC+1=6 so A=1, C=5 & n=0
so B(A+C)=m*10+2 since A+C=6 B=2 and m=1
so ABC=125 and CBA=521
& (125)(521)=65125

Rina lives in the dorm (this was rushed)

That word---Fewer (this was telegraphed)

Rap
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yitwail
 
  1  
Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 09:42 am
Tryagain wrote:
Yitwail wrote, "Try, how thoughtful of you to remark on my achievement of the 2000 post milesone. i couldn't have done it without threads such as this." Shocked

Don't blame me, that only accounts for about six. :wink:


actually, i might be up to 3000 by now, if i hadn't wasted time on riddles. Razz
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Tryagain
 
  1  
Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 03:02 pm
Yitwail wrote, "actually, i might be up to 3000 by now, if i hadn't wasted time on riddles."

Sincere apologies, but the Doc said it was the only way to slow you down, and let me catch up Laughing


You guy's look far too good. Let us kick it up a notch.


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Find as many solutions as you can.
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raprap
 
  1  
Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 05:20 pm
Firefighter
Ladder has odd number of rungs
so ladder has 2n+1 rungs Firefighter stands on the (n+1)th rung
so
2n+1=n+1+9-13+19
2n+1=n+16
n=15
so ladder has 31 rungs (2*15+1)

Poinsettia
4 possibilities
if x is # of 4 pot boxes
& y is # of 3 pot boxes
then 4x+3y=36
and x & y are positive integers
x+y=# of boxes
min # of boxes is 9
max # of boxes is 12
9 boxes---9, 4 pot boxes-- 0, 3 pot boxes
10 boxes--6, 4 pot boxes--4, 3 pot boxes
11 boxes--3, 4 pot boxes--8, 3 pot boxes
12 boxes--0, 4 pot boxes--12, 3 pot boxes

Michelle's test
R is # of right answers
W is # of wrong answers
N is # of no answer
R+W+N=40
5R-2W=96
R=(176-2N)/7=176/7-2N/7
176mod7=1
Rmod7=0
what (2N)mod7=1?
N=4,11,18,25
then
R=24,22,20,18
and
W=12,7,2,-3
but all answers (& no answers) have to be positive integers
so there are 3 possibilities
these are
R=24,22,20
W=12,7,2
N=4,11,18
for an score of 96.

Rap
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 05:28 pm
LADDER
31

PLANTS
12*3, 0*4
8*3, 3*4
4*3, 6*4
0*3, 9*4
total number of solutions = 4

TEST
20 correct, 2 incorrect
22 correct, 7 incorrect
24 correct, 12 incorrect
total number of solutions = 3
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Tryagain
 
  1  
Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 07:29 am
Mark:

ROCKER
$5000 Cool

ODD NUMBER
4005 Cool

THREE NUMBERS
30 Cool

EXCHANGED DIGITS
125 Cool

WORD
few Cool

FOOD/DRINK
fire Cool

Clean sweep Razz


Rap:
"It musta been that Maloof chair"

If you have a set, you are on to a sure thing. Laughing

2003rd odd number is 4005=2(2003)-1 Cool

middle # is 30 Cool

125 or 521 Cool

"Rina lives in the dorm (this was rushed)"

No excuses accepted, you are still right. Cool


"That word---Fewer (this was telegraphed)"

We are here to help. Laughing



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A - B = -17
What is the product of A and B Question


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And each, I assure you, will rhyme with the other.
My first you will find is one-fifth of my second,
And truly my whole a long period reckoned.
Yet my first and my second (nay, think not I cozen),
When added together will make but two dozen.

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I will get to part II later. Off to Stonehenge now.
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raprap
 
  1  
Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 07:55 am
Li'l Turtle has 103 dimes and 99 nickles

The product of the two numbers is -60

Rap's watch says 8:38

The area of the square is 441

Time

The first is 4, the second 20 (but they don't Rhyme)

Applause

Rap
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whimsical
 
  1  
Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 08:27 am
Challenge: choose 3 numbers and use only (-, /, *, +) and brackets if needed.

Rules:
You do not need to use all three numbers. Form expressions for the successive numbers from one up, until you can't go further. I did write numbers, and not digits.

What is the highest you can get?


For instance the numbers 1 2 3, have a break point 9.

1 = 1
2 = 2
3 = 3
4 = 1 + 3
5 = 2 + 3
6 = 1 + 2 +3
7 = 3 * 2 + 1
8 = 2 * ( 3 + 1)
9 = 3 * ( 2 + 1 )
10 not possible

Higest break point so far 17.
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markr
 
  1  
Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 09:14 am
FIRST/SECOND
four and a score
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raprap
 
  1  
Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 11:21 am
??
10=3*3+1
11=3*3+2
12=(3+1)*3
13=(3+1)*3+1
14=(3*2+1)*2
15=(3+2)*3
16=(3+2)*3+1
17=(3+2)*3+2
18=3*3*2
19=3*3*2+1
20=(3+2)(3+1)

Rap
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raprap
 
  1  
Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 12:04 pm
markr wrote:
FIRST/SECOND
four and a score


Of Course! No wonder my forehead is sloped.

Rap
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Tryagain
 
  1  
Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 12:58 pm
Five day ago this problem was set by a cunning math wizard: Twisted Evil


Code:
WHIM
TRY
TRY
-----
AGAIN



Whim had no problem with it. I however, have thought thro every available combination and failed miserably……

Until now, Eureka! Razz

Code:
8 6 5 19
7 4 2
7 4 2
101 5 3


I weep no more. Laughing



Rap:

Li'l Turtle has 103 dimes and 99 nickles Cool

The product of the two numbers is -60 Cool

Rap's watch says 8:38 Cool

The area of the square is 441 Cool



Mark:

FIRST/SECOND
four and a score Cool


The riddles remain ?'sans' correct answers, although I did like ?'Applause' Laughing


Both Mark and Rap gave excellent answers to the Ladder/Flowers/Test. Cool Cool



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