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HEFNER ENGAGED AGAIN ?

 
 
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:00 pm
@shewolfnm,
Nobody cares, It's just funny.
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:02 pm
@Phoenix32890,
Hef was at pension age and she was one year old,
So they were both in diaper's, at least they have
that in common.
lmur
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:06 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
If they do get married euro, he could bring her over here on their honeymoon and avail of the Free Travel.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:12 pm
@lmur,
I can just see them on Bus Eireann. Sitting down the back,
Hef with her hand in one hand and oxygen in the other.
Ambulance following just in case, so romantic. Laughing Laughing Laughing

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRASitnpPeARR72uiVskFG4zMzmrDRUCLDHa31uBdW1vvaYJIRb5g

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSopHYk5NPiikA0nyOn9kxHTtWWWvRyJ3Y5779vSwNfbJ
sS6XG3

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTzf7CW-0Y-6a1wM8GoiWtgS3okPJujtfNxvhIoMl1tpilru_2
Laughing Laughing



lmur
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:31 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
Laughing I'll hand it to him - he's a babe-magnate!
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:58 pm
@lmur,
Absolutely, good look to him.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 10:22 pm
@lmur,
lmur wrote:
Laughing I'll hand it to him - he's a babe-magnate!
WELL SAID!!!
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Pemerson
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 10:54 pm
I guess since he's marrying her she may have to kiss him.
Ohhh, nooooooooo.
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jcboy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Dec, 2010 09:09 pm
Won't know if he's cummin or going.
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2010 12:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SNjpf12DQY Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 08:54 am
Camille Paglia on the death of Hugh Hefner:

Quote:
Q: Do men need a kind of Hefner for today to give an example of how to interact with women in a sophisticated manner?

A: Yes. Women's sexual responses are notoriously slower than men's. Truly sophisticated seducers knew that women have to be courted and that women love an ambiance, setting a stage. Today, alas, too many young women feel they have to provide quick sex or they’ll lose social status. If a guy can't get sex from them, he'll get it from someone else. There’s a general bleak atmosphere of grudging compliance.

Today’s hook-up culture, which is the ultimate product of my generation’s sexual revolution, seems markedly disillusioning in how it has reduced sex to male needs, to the general male desire for wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am efficiency, with no commitment afterwards. We're in a period of great sexual confusion and rancor right now. The sexes are very wary of each other. There’s no pressure on men to marry because they can get sex very easily in other ways.

The sizzle of sex seems gone. What Hefner's death forces us to recognize is that there is very little glamour and certainly no mystery or intrigue left to sex for most young people. Which means young women do not know how to become women. And sex has become just another physical urge that can be satisfied like putting coins into a Coke machine.

This may be one reason for the ferocious pressure by so many current feminists to reinforce the Stalinist mechanisms, the pernicious PC rules that have invaded colleges everywhere. Feminists want supervision and surveillance of dating life on campus to punish men if something goes wrong and the girl doesn't like what happened. I am very concerned that what young women are saying through this strident feminist rhetoric is that they feel incapable of conducting independent sex lives. They require adult intrusion and supervision and penalizing of men who go astray. But if feminism means anything, it should be encouraging young women to take control of every aspect of their sex lives, including their own impulses, conflicts and disappointments. That's what's tragic about all this. Young women don't seem to realize that in demanding adult inquiry into and adjudication of their sex lives, they are forfeiting their own freedom and agency.

Young women are being taught that men have all the power and have used it throughout history to oppress women. Women don't seem to realize how much power they have to crush men! Strong women have always known how to control men. Oscar Wilde said women are complex and men are simple. Is it society or is it nature that is unjust? This was the big question that I proposed in Sexual Personae, where I argued that our biggest oppressor is actually nature, not society. I continue to feel that my pro-sex wing of feminism, which does not see sexual imagery or men in general as the enemy, has the best and healthiest message for young women.


Much more:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/camille-paglia-hugh-hefners-legacy-trumps-masculinity-feminisms-sex-phobia-1044769
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 08:56 am
@Olivier5,
I often wonder if Ms. Paglia has ever been in a relationship that involved sex.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 09:01 am
@ehBeth,
Why do you say so?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 09:11 am
@Olivier5,
It's hard to find one sentence of hers that reflects male/female sex/relationships as I experience them - or as my friends (ranging in age from about 28 - 63) experience them.

She's an odd duck. Interesting, but odd.
ossobucotemp
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 09:28 am
@ehBeth,
Me too. I remember doing the equivalent of rolling my eyes when I read her stuff, now a long time ago.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 10:30 am
@ehBeth,
You're Canadian, she's a US author speaking largely about US gender relations to a US (and mainly academic) audience. Gender relations are context-specific.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 10:39 am
@Olivier5,
Ms Paglia believes she is talking about nature, not society, let alone American society.

Quote:
Oscar Wilde said women are complex and men are simple. Is it society or is it nature that is unjust? This was the big question that I proposed in Sexual Personae, where I argued that our biggest oppressor is actually nature, not society.


ossob is an American woman - has pretty much the same reaction I do.

Women I know/work with are American. They also have that eye-rolling reaction to Ms. Paglia (if they've heard of her, she's pretty out of date).

Again - interesting/entertaining to read but not relevant - or accurate.

She apparently doesn't have sex/sexual relationships with men. I'm more likely to trust women who like sex with men about what the relationships/differences/similarities are like.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 10:44 am
@ossobucotemp,
I don't know her all that much and i can see condradictions in what she says but some of what she says in that article resonates.

When I first came here I wondered if men and women still loved one another around here, given that the default a2k response to any relationship question is "leave him/her" (that, or "seek professional counsel").
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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 11:08 am
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

I often wonder if Ms. Paglia has ever been in a relationship that involved sex.


I don't know. Maybe that's why she thinks womens sexual response is slower.

ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 2 Oct, 2017 11:12 am
@chai2,
yup yup

that right there made me go wtf you talking about
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