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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 06:20 am
@Ragman,
The word is CHUTZPAH, and I agree with you.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 06:32 am
@Phoenix32890,
Phoenix = not-exactly-"green"
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Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:36 am
@Phoenix32890,
My current keyboard or language progam seems to interpret the 'Ch' of chutzpah as ḥutzpah.

However, at the risk of putting too fine of a point on this ...
You'll notice that on this page the word is spelled 3 ways.
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861597269/chutzpah.html

Having been raised as a Jew, I'm very familiar with Yiddish. FWIW, almost any English spelling of Hebrew or Yiddish words is acceptable. For example, Chanukah, Hanukah, etc. Transliteration efforts means basically anything goes.
Roberta
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 09:55 am
@Ragman,
Hey, since I'm the one who's got it, I'm the one who's gonna say how to spell it. Chutzpah.

(Ragman, I don't disagree with anything you said, but when I saw it spelled without the ch, I semi-winced. Sorry.)
Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 10:35 am
@Roberta,
No problem. Wait...wasn't that Phoenix's correction?

The funny little accent mark in ḥutzpah represents that gutteral ch sound. My keyboard seems to 'know' when to type the sound for chet or ḥet.
Roberta
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 11:56 am
@Ragman,
Yes, it was Phoenix's comment. I was exhibiting unusual self-restraint. I'm as impressed as hell that you have a Jewish keyboard.
Ragman
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 12:57 pm
@Roberta,
Kosher one, too!
Roberta
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 07:05 pm
@Ragman,
So you have to be careful about what you nosh on when you're at the computer? The demands of inanimate objects are getting out of control.
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 07:42 am
@Roberta,
I winced too, Boida. I think that the problem is that there is not a similar "ch" sound in English. People who are not familiar with the pronunciation of of chutzpah have difficulty making that sound. When I hear "Hanukkah", it sounds like chalk scratching on a blackboard to me. (Do they still have blackboards?)

I think that you have the same situation with some Asian people, who pronounce the letter "L" as if it were an "r". I would suspect, that some linguists in the A2K crowd, would find many other examples of people unable to pronounce certain words, as their are no similar sounds in their language.

I remember something that I learned in Psych 1. Apparently, infants babble all sounds. Later, the sounds that are not connected with their mother tongue drops out.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 07:45 am
@Roberta,
how true. A nice cinnamon babke would be nice.
http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/9326/babke-quota-blessing-breadquot-maggie-glezer
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 07:59 am
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:
Sorry in advance, but do you mean acerbic? Embarrassed

I think she meant "asshole".
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 08:00 am
@Ragman,
Cinnamon takes a back seat to no babka!
dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2010 08:05 am
@Ticomaya,
But they WANTED chocolate.
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