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Fed judge rules health insurance reform unconstitutional

 
 
kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2010 11:25 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Dude, your ignorance rubbed off on the good people in both states.
Your legacy is nothing to brag about.


My legacy in that town is the $1,750, 000 dollars I made there over a decade running a chemical company by being smarter than the locals.......um, just like you.

It must tear up a knuckle-head like you to see a dirty ******* hippie like me play the economic game and succeed wildly while still being objective enough to be able to recognize the inherent faults of the system. I am certainly no Mozart, but you are the 21st century avatar of Antonio Salieri.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2010 11:30 pm
@kuvasz,
kuvasz wrote:

Quote:
Dude, your ignorance rubbed off on the good people in both states.
Your legacy is nothing to brag about.


My legacy in that town is the $1,750, 000 dollars I made there over a decade running a chemical company by being smarter than the locals.......um, just like you.

It must tear up a knuckle-head like you to see a dirty ******* hippie like me play the economic game and succeed wildly while still being objective enough to be able to recognize the inherent faults of the system. I am certainly no Mozart, but you are the 21st century avatar of Antonio Salieri.


You're a dirty ******* hippie?! Shocked

I knew it!!!!
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2010 11:32 pm
@kuvasz,
Whoa...Wait a minute

You're a dirty ******* hippie and a chemist? Shocked
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2010 11:33 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
All you had to do was look at my profile.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2010 11:36 pm
@kuvasz,
I know plenty of right-wing Deadheads who have read Lao Tzu and Alan Watts
roger
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2010 11:37 pm
@DrewDad,
You are comparing health insurance to prescription drug coverage. Hey, maybe it's all coincidence, but over 100% in two similar policies?

The plan is to raise the money now, and start doling out most of the benefits later.
kuvasz
 
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2010 11:53 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Please, do not compare me with Anne "Skeletor" Coulter.

The message of the Dead was to recognize that while the boys let loose everything on the stage and the shows just a mansion of dance, that the real important thing going on was that everyone had just lost themselves in everybody else there. The principal theme was the wonderful innocence and the marvel of life when it recognizes itself in harmony with all the others. Everyone is somehow or other at one with everybody else. And that theme is just about the world’s only of answer to the atom bomb. The atom bomb is based on differentiation: I-and-not-that-guy-over-there. Divisiveness is socially based. It has nothing to do with nature at all. It is a contrivance and at a Dead show, suddenly, it fell apart.

Anyone who groks what the Dead attempted to do at their shows would never call Anne Coulter a Deadhead for the particular reason that the woman is divisive.
roger
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 12:48 am
@roger,
Sorry DrewDad. I didn't make it clear that Part D is Medicare Part D. When President Obama was asked how he was going to get his health care plan through without adding a dime to the deficit, he didn't mention savings from private plans. It was Medicare that he was going to save 400 - 500 billion from. He also mentioned no cuts in benefits. I guess so. He never said insurers wouldn't make changes to their formularies. Have to blame the insurance companies again.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 12:53 am
@roger,
Quote:
The plan is to raise the money now, and start doling out most of the benefits later.
oh, you noticed that did you??

It is a tricking the consumer, they have a ten year plan where at the head end they take in money but dont spend, and then the costs look much more reasonable. The give you a ten year price of $WJNBVDOOKHGG above income from the plan, which sounds pretty reasonable, but it is NOT the cost of running the plan for ten years. The real cost over rev of ten year of OBAMACARE (which comes from the general fund of course) is $POIUFDSWFBHNNLKLKJHGFRYUUHBFF....which conveniently no one wants to talk about. We get around to that in about nine years, when it gets time to talk about the next ten year plan...maybe. The cats in Washington are pretty good about hiding the costs of the goodies that that we pay for and they give away, they might figure something out when the time comes.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 03:25 am
@hawkeye10,
Just another Obama lie; "it won't cost a dime more."
It will cost billions more; how much more is anybody's guess. You can't add 40 million more patients to a system that doesn't include where cost savings are not identified isn't going to cost many billions more. Our health care system is already stretched to the max, and adding over 40 million more patients will impact how everybody receives health care. Do the math.

Ever try this trick? Buy a more expensive home for all, and it won't cost a dime more?
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 07:12 am
@kuvasz,
kuvasz wrote:

Quote:
Dude, your ignorance rubbed off on the good people in both states.
Your legacy is nothing to brag about.


My legacy in that town is the $1,750, 000 dollars I made there over a decade running a chemical company by being smarter than the locals.......um, just like you.



Nope, unlike you - I made more and made it faster.
revelette
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 07:47 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
If the mandate part of the law is taken away (I don't think it will be; but I know I could be proved wrong) and the bill is unsustainable, you still have a large part of the population who want the perks that came with the bill, like forcing insurance companies to cover people with pre-conditions, better value for premiums... Since the idea is out there and people by and large like it, somehow or another, I bet we will have it even if the mandate part gets taken away. It is like SS, paying for it is hard but a large majority of the people do not want it taken away; so it is still here. Sometimes the very people taking about the "socialism" of the Health Care Act are republicans on SS worried about it being taken away. Irony.
kuvasz
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 10:52 am
@H2O MAN,
You have never shown enough intelligence on this site in your posts for one to think that you could make enough money with which to feed yourself, let alone command a 6-figure salary for over a decade. So I consider you, in addition to being a racist asshole, a liar too. But you certainly do fit in in Athens-Clarke-Jackson Counties, where outside of the UGA influence the local slack-jaws are as dumb as dirt.

But, considering first you start with a bunch of reptile-minded dicks and then you subject them to rank propaganda that has been specifically designed to appeal to their most base and mean instincts. Then the next thing you know, they are buying a Bill O'Reilly coffee mug and muttering about the War on Christmas, and how selling water softeners door-to-door can make you a millionaire.

Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 10:56 am
@hawkeye10,
Do you have any clue what you are talking about? At all?

I think you are just making stuff up as you go here. Seriously.

The recent Health Care reform passage has nothing to do with Roger's insurance going up - unless he was previously on a Medicare Advantage plan, in which case his health insurance was being subsidized by you and I to the tune of 13% over what Medicare normally pays. That's not gonna happen anymore.

Otherwise, none of the changes that would cause his costs to rise have even gone into effect yet. None of em. So where exactly is the evidence for your theory coming from?

Cyclotpichorn
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 12:47 pm
@kuvasz,
kuvasz, you a clueless cock-sucking liberal that prowls bus stop
and airport restroom whoring yourself out for pocket change.

How many pairs of Lewinsky knee pads have you gone though over the years?

Have yourself a Merry Christmas you worthless piece of **** Wink



High Seas
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 01:14 pm
@H2O MAN,
Yo! I know Kuvasz. His politics aren't mine but he's otherwise OK. Hope the spirit of Christmas diffuses around here; best wishes to you and family Smile
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 02:01 pm
@High Seas,
Yeah, he's a class act Laughing
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 02:12 pm
@revelette,
revelette wrote:

. . . you still have a large part of the population who want the perks that came with the bill, like forcing insurance companies to cover people with pre-conditions, better value for premiums...


Un huh. Everybody wants to keep the parts they like. The insurance companies mostly liked it for the added 30 million or so new policies they would be writing. Now they discover points they don't like. So they would like to keep the subscriber base and just lose a few expensive provisions.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 05:44 pm
@kuvasz,
Who called Ann Coulter a Deadhead?
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High Seas
 
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Reply Fri 17 Dec, 2010 05:54 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

Un huh. Everybody wants to keep the parts they like.

No, really? Revelette has just discovered everyone would rather get goods and services with someone else getting the bills? Alert the media!
 

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