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Is there such a thing as no thing?

 
 
Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 03:30 pm
Hi All!

Is there such a thing as no thing.

If not a thing is a thing it can't be not a thing because, in being a thing it must have properties, and is therefore a thing, not, not a thing.

Do you agree or disagree with this?

Thank you, and have a lovely afternoon!
Mark...
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Reyn
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 04:19 pm
@mark noble,
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KTbnwsD0C84/SZao-_FPbAI/AAAAAAAAApU/63YA97gWLRk/s320/THE+ROCK+BROW.JPG
Hmmm, didn't you ask this question before?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 04:29 pm
Does no thing have a name?
kennethamy
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 04:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Does no thing have a name?


Yes. It is Leonard, but no one knows it.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 05:42 pm
@kennethamy,
If it has a name/description, it's a thing.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 05:45 pm
Hah! Just today I wondered what happened to the hard core philis ..... Very Happy
Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 05:51 pm
@CalamityJane,
Laughing I thought they were still in a back room somewhere trying to find moderators that actually knew what philosophy is. Laughing
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 07:39 pm
@Intrepid,
Intrepid wrote:

Laughing I thought they were still in a back room somewhere trying to find moderators that actually knew what philosophy is. Laughing


Maybe it gets harder to find out what Philosophy is not...In your case I would suggest to look under a rock, who knows you might get enlightened...
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 07:41 pm
@CalamityJane,
Hard core ? hmmm... Rolling Eyes
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kennethamy
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 07:57 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

Hah! Just today I wondered what happened to the hard core philis ..... Very Happy


Gresham's law also applies to philosophy forums. Bad philosophy drives out good.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 08:36 pm
Gosh, lighten up, Fil, we were joking. The emoticons should have been an indication, if not the writing.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 08:47 pm
@kennethamy,
Right kennethamy, philosophy is only as good as its fellow philosophers!
Whereas I have to say that a great deal of what you might think are good
philosophers (from your old forum) are just quixotic contemporaries.

A2k never was a sole philosophy forum, there is a small section dedicated to it
and you all could have made an impact to make it bigger and more interesting.
Instead, most of you sulkily retrieved to other stomping grounds. Not that
there is anything wrong with that, yet, every topic is only as interesting as
its posts.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 08:55 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Intrepid wrote:

Laughing I thought they were still in a back room somewhere trying to find moderators that actually knew what philosophy is. Laughing


Maybe it gets harder to find out what Philosophy is not...In your case I would suggest to look under a rock, who knows you might get enlightened...


Will I find you there even if the rock is not really a rock?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 08:55 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:

Gosh, lighten up, Fil, we were joking. The emoticons should have been an indication, if not the writing.


Fil doesn't have a sense of humour. Sad
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 09:55 pm
@Intrepid,
I was already in bed checking this on my smart phone but I felt the urge to apologise...indeed there is so much demagoguery flying around that it turns easy to miss some good sense of humour. Wink

C Jane and Intrepid I very much would enjoy your company around the philosophy Threads just to freshen up a little bit...

See you around !
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Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 10:02 pm
@CalamityJane,
I have the impression that there are some "diamonds" rolling deep in the middle of the major nonsense as it is usual in democratic forums...it pays off to read them just to get that...in average not that bad.
Would be a little bit naive to expect better...
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 10:28 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
Dressing up formal philosophy hats does n´t make better Philosophy...
..."Le Roi est nude" !...
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 11:20 pm
@Fil Albuquerque,
I agree, Fil, and thank you for the invite. I consider myself too pragmatic to
be philosophical, but I shall try...

Now, while it is morning in your part of the world in my part it is bedtime!
Good night!
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Owen phil
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 03:15 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

If it has a name/description, it's a thing.


Wrong.
The present king of France, is a description of a purported thing which does not exist. ie. the present king of France is not a thing.
That planet which accounts for the irrregular orbit of Mercury, acccording to newtonian pysics, was named "Vulcan", and it has been shown that 'it' does not exist. Therefore your "If it has a name/description, it's a thing." is false!

Does 'God' exist ..simply because "God" is a name...I don't think so.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 19 Oct, 2010 10:59 am
@Owen phil,
Even when it doesn't physically exist, naming anything gives it identity. It's a "thing" in our mind. You proved it by describing it.
 

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