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We share 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2010 10:22 am
@HexHammer,
HH, What he's saying is that we don't know how life originated.
HexHammer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2010 02:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

HH, What he's saying is that we don't know how life originated.
Don't see how that does relate to OP nor my post.
HexHammer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2010 02:39 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:
Will clones that cannot survive on their own be suitable as food. Will they bring about minor changes in DNA such that we may have among us "monsters" or "defects" with excessive hair, toes, blue skin, etc.? It does not take much to alter the genes or to have them expressed in unusual ways. Just 2% difference in DNA separate man from beast.
- maybe in the future things that can't survive on their own, be recycled as food, the industry are usually cynical as Hell.

- such monsters can be passed on if their genes can be passed through breeding
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2010 03:08 pm
@HexHammer,
No, but it was in response to Ralph 2's post. Can't help it if you wish to ignore it. Just try'n to be helpful.
HexHammer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2010 03:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

No, but it was in response to Ralph 2's post. Can't help it if you wish to ignore it. Just try'n to be helpful.
Yes, it was rethorical, not aimed for you my friend Smile
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talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 01:37 pm
@HexHammer,
Our DNA is quite delicate and using stuff of unknown qualities may damage our DNA. I think using cloned creatures as food is dangerous as they will affect us in unkown ways just as bovine hormones. Look at kids reaching puberty at 8 or 9 years of age and obesity. These hormones are growth so they accelerate grwoth in maturity and bulk.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 01:42 pm
@talk72000,
talk, I used to think the same thing when they started using genetics in our food production, but with the decades gone by without any negative reactions - as far as we know - I've concluded it's safe enough when considered to other life-threatening parts of our lives.

The only caution now is do eat and drink in moderation, and eat more veggies and fruits in my diet. Other than that, I don't worry much.
talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 01:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It is the slow changes that people somehow accept or cannot detect and then there is an epidemic like the obesity problem. It is like the frog slowly heated in a beaker and boiled to death.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 01:46 pm
@talk72000,
There are choices when it comes to eating unhealthy fast food; our parents are to blame for the number of children who never learn to eat properly.
talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 01:48 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It is the culture which emphasized speed, convenience and money. It is the Wall Street influence.
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HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 02:25 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:

Our DNA is quite delicate and using stuff of unknown qualities may damage our DNA. I think using cloned creatures as food is dangerous as they will affect us in unkown ways just as bovine hormones. Look at kids reaching puberty at 8 or 9 years of age and obesity. These hormones are growth so they accelerate grwoth in maturity and bulk.
First part is true, our DNA is quite fragile, dunno about the last part.
talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 05:06 pm
@HexHammer,
Their have been cases of girls developing breasts and pubic har at 8 or 9 years. In China toddlers were developing breasts. Guys are not so sensitive or couldn't care less but for girls it shows.
HexHammer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 07:10 pm
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:

Their have been cases of girls developing breasts and pubic har at 8 or 9 years. In China toddlers were developing breasts. Guys are not so sensitive or couldn't care less but for girls it shows.
Uhmm, for over 3 decades such thing has been known, don't see what excatly that has to do with anything in this conversation.
talk72000
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2010 07:26 pm
@HexHammer,
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/bgh.htm

Quote:
Both the U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) and the Consumer's Union, publisher of Consumer Reports magazine, have warned of the potential hazards to human health caused by consuming products derived from rBGH-treated cows.


http://www.cwhn.ca/en/node/39365
Quote:
data from the last few decades have shown a dramatic decline in the onset age for both breast budding and pubarche and these rates are continuing to decline significantly (unlike menarche onset which has appeared to plateau).


http://www.ejnet.org/bgh/nogood.html
Quote:
Whenever cows are forced to produce more milk, they become more susceptible to udder infections called mastitis. Mastitis is a condition which can increase the amount of cow’s pus which ends up in the milk.


Quote:
In America's endless drive to increase productivity and make more for less, not even the sacred cow is left alone. Milk, the nectar we all drank as children so that we may "Grow up big and strong," is now genetically engineered with the recombinant bovine growth hormone, somatotropin (BST). The emergent industry of biotechnology is booming, inventing new products for agriculture and thus changing the means by which we obtain our food and what exactly that food contains. The bovine growth hormone is a prime example of this new wave of technology. Is this new technology a good thing? Is it really necessary? What impact will it have on the cows and their owners? These are the questions that need to be asked and answered before we decide to open our grocer's freezer and pull out the gallon of our favorite white beverage.

Today, the United States is already in a state of mass overproduction of milk and milk products, particularly in the form of butter. "From 1980 to 1985, total US milk production increased 11.5 percent (15 billion pounds) despite a 2.3 decline in average farm price."3 The government currently buys this surplus of milk with public dollars in order to sustain the price of milk and to keep farmers in business. An increase in milk production exacerbates the existing milk surplus, driving down prices, and making it more difficult for the small or middle-sized dairy farmers to stay in business. "According to the governments own study, it will cost taxpayers over $500 million in increased milk support prices because the drug will flood the already drowning milk market, where the government supports prices."1


Bovine hormones has been used since 1980.

http://legacy.lclark.edu/~soan221/97/Bovine_Growth_Hormone.html
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Pamela Rosa
 
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Reply Wed 20 Oct, 2010 08:30 am
The Root of the Phylogenetic Tree of Human Populations
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/13/1/170.pdf
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 20 Oct, 2010 11:33 am
@Pamela Rosa,
Can you explain it in layman's terms?
talk72000
 
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Reply Wed 20 Oct, 2010 01:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Spenser Wells in National Geopgraphics shows it best thru the migration. Asians and Europeans are closer than Africans to non- Africans.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 20 Oct, 2010 01:35 pm
@talk72000,
That's the impression I've had for a long time, but didn't have any source to prove that point. Must've read it in the National Geographic many moons ago.
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Pamela Rosa
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2010 05:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Genetic distance from chimpanzee:
Nigerian: 18.0
N.European: 36.7
Alaskan: 47.9
Chinese: 50.4
S.Amerindian:61.9.
talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 22 Oct, 2010 05:41 pm
@Pamela Rosa,
Quote:
Genetic distance from chimpanzee: N.European: 36.7

Some Mediterranean types have a lot of body hair.
 

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