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Stranded On A Desert Island - What Would You Need?

 
 
mark noble
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 11:04 am
@Telamon,
Hi Telamon!

There is NO fresh water supply. There are palms though with coconuts on.

The knife is essential. But you can get by with a sharp slatelike stone.
The holder is pointless. Just keep it dry.
Cave is not a selection. There is one there.
Only one deer (one selection) allowed.
There are wild pigs there, and fish and the like in the sea.

water must be collected by another means.
No Predators there.
And how will you light a fire to use your kettle?

Kind regards!
Mark...
Joe Nation
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 11:08 am
An island near the Equator
1) a knife
An island near the higher or lower latitudes:
1) a knife

The other four things I could live without.
Joe(survival master)nation
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 11:10 am
@mark noble,
Hi Mark,

- 1 bag marijuana seeds

- 1 carbon-steel long knife

- 1 thick ass piece of flint

- 1 large magnifying glass

- 1 50-gallon drum of honey

I think I could reasonably survive for years or decades with the above equipment.

Cycloptichorn
mark noble
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 11:41 am
@Joe Nation,
Hi Joe!

The island is in the south pacific. So you're ok there.

How will you get fresh water though?

Kind regards!
Mark...
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 11:43 am
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:

An island near the Equator
1) a knife
An island near the higher or lower latitudes:
1) a knife

The other four things I could live without.
Joe(survival master)nation


I actually agree with this, though it would be nice to have a backup knife.

Cycloptichorn
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mark noble
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 11:45 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Hi Mark,

- 1 bag marijuana seeds

- 1 carbon-steel long knife

- 1 thick ass piece of flint

- 1 large magnifying glass

- 1 50-gallon drum of honey

I think I could reasonably survive for years or decades with the above equipment.

Cycloptichorn


Hi Cyclo!

Will you be eating the buds? (you have no rolling papers)

Good on the knife!

Why magnifying glass and flint?

Honey will turn (go off) and is not replenishable.

Better choices than some though.

Kind regards!
Mark...
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 11:49 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Hi Mark,

- 1 bag marijuana seeds

- 1 carbon-steel long knife

- 1 thick ass piece of flint

- 1 large magnifying glass

- 1 50-gallon drum of honey

I think I could reasonably survive for years or decades with the above equipment.

Cycloptichorn


Hi Cyclo!

Will you be eating the buds? (you have no rolling papers)


That and smoking them. I can carve a pipe out of wood easily enough with the knife and light it with the magnifying glass or the flint.

I will also eat the seeds, they are very high in nutrition and taste pretty good - you can make a paste out of them that lasts a long time (especially when mixed with honey). The plant material itself makes a great rope, Hemp is essentially marijuana anyway. All in all a useful plant and a renewable resource.

Quote:
Good on the knife!

Why magnifying glass and flint?


Two different means of making fire. That means I have a backup in case something goes wrong. The magnifying glass is also useful for making a spyglass and for home surgeries.

Quote:
Honey will turn (go off) and is not replenishable.


No, it will not, either. Honey doesn't 'go off.' It stays good forever provided that you keep the compartment sealed. Not only that, honey makes an excellent mortar/glue for building permanent structures and acts as an antiseptic when put in wounds. An extremely useful substance, it could get me through the lean months.

Quote:
Better choices than some though.


Of course, I agree with this assessment.

Cycloptichorn
mark noble
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:41 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Hi Cyclo!

Good reply!

If you spread some honey on the boughs of trees where small birds are known to roost - They may stick to it, providing you with another form of nutrition.

What will you do for water though?

Thank you!
Mark...
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:45 pm
@mark noble,
making a container to capture rain water is not that difficult a task, mark.

I would use cyclops' list, but substitute a big hammer for the magnifying glass.

(assuming I was allowed to retain my reading glasses)
mark noble
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:45 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Potassium permanganate is excellent as a water purifier and antiseptic - If you add a drop of antifreeze to it in some kindling, it will ignite too - violently, creating an instant fire.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:12 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

making a container to capture rain water is not that difficult a task, mark.

I would use cyclops' list, but substitute a big hammer for the magnifying glass.

(assuming I was allowed to retain my reading glasses)


Good idea, though rocks make serviceable hammers.

Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:13 pm
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Potassium permanganate is excellent as a water purifier and antiseptic - If you add a drop of antifreeze to it in some kindling, it will ignite too - violently, creating an instant fire.


Runs out. You can always distill water or boil it to clean it. Can't waste a spot on it.

Cycloptichorn
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:13 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
but they don't have an axe head on the other side...
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:14 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:

but they don't have an axe head on the other side...


That could be useful - though you can build a sharp stone axe with practice. I never made one that survived more than about 15 swings, but then again, I didn't have nothing else to do and my life depending on it, either.

Cycloptichorn
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:15 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
I'm too lazy to make an axe.

and I want a door for my cave.
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mark noble
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:21 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Hi cyclo!

So does 50 galls of honey. I was only suggesting that it is good to have in an emergency situation though. 50 tonnes of it would last a lifetime.

Mark...
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mark noble
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:31 pm
@Rockhead,
Hi Rockhead!

I agree. But you can't depend on it raining and there is no fresh water available. Breaking coconuts open is a good temporary measure, but eventually the energy used to do this will outweigh the energy returned.

I would personally go for a polythene sheet. Dig a pit or trench, put your container in the middle, add sea water, urine, stagnant water, etc (Not higher than the container opening) to it, cover with the sheet, stabilise sheet with rocks and put a small stone on the sheet above the container. The sun will do the rest for you.

Mark...
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 02:19 pm
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Hi Rockhead!

I agree. But you can't depend on it raining and there is no fresh water available. Breaking coconuts open is a good temporary measure, but eventually the energy used to do this will outweigh the energy returned.

I would personally go for a polythene sheet. Dig a pit or trench, put your container in the middle, add sea water, urine, stagnant water, etc (Not higher than the container opening) to it, cover with the sheet, stabilise sheet with rocks and put a small stone on the sheet above the container. The sun will do the rest for you.

Mark...


You can use banana leaves for the same thing - I've actually done this and it works pretty well.

Cycloptichorn
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Telamon
 
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Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 10:53 pm
@mark noble,
If there was no fresh water supply, one should of said so before hand (thus my request for one, just in case). your original post clearly outlines we may request 5 THINGS on our person or nearby, therefor i concluded that your parameters were very general and so i capitalized on it. Later in your replies you stated:



"I never awarded the island 'fertile, palm covered, pig roaming, south sea status.

But for you...I shall."



You then also awarded us a cave to live in, which again, was not in the original post that i replied too, anyways...



So going off these new parameters i assume there is more vegetation then just palm trees, due to the pigs, so therefor a fresh water supply is about. On a side note, i was not told there where wildlife so i therefor created it for my food supply, i now with-drawl my original request and instead my list includes:

1. Knife

2.

I have been to several survival schools, and given the parameters you have set, nothing else would be required, thanks. (ps. it doesnt take much to make fire if you know how)

mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 17 Aug, 2010 01:07 pm
@Telamon,
Hi Telamon!

All of these factors were included in latter posts. The pigs came off a nearby ship that lost all its cargo in a storm, only yesterday. And are managing without water for now.

Fire does take a lot of energy to produce - If you do not have firelighting equipment. Not sure if palm wood is viable.

Anyone tried it?

Kind regards!
Mark...
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