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Mac Viruses

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 17 Aug, 2010 12:01 pm
@Robert Gentel,
Robert Gentel wrote:

panzade wrote:
makes you wonder if Gates has been dragging his feet all these years, engineer


They also didn't want to piss off the AV vendors by providing a free product that undercuts them. Ultimately they got sick of being bludgeoned over security because of the many users who aren't willing to pay for AV and offered a free solution for that.

But they still don't push it hard, as they are trying to cover a market (those who will not buy an AV solution) that does not compete with Norton et all. Thing is, those vendors are releasing inferior products to the free solution. Right now I recommend their freeware even if you already have a paid AV solution.


Thanks for your advice, Robert. I gotta look into that.





David
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Shapeless
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 07:18 am
I found these two interesting op-eds:

The Great Mac Virus Myth

Mac OS X Security Myth Exposed
rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 11:08 am
@Shapeless,
Shapeless wrote:

I found these two interesting op-eds:

The Great Mac Virus Myth

Mac OS X Security Myth Exposed

Those were both written in 2004.
panzade
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 11:12 am
@rosborne979,
Guess the myth is exposed
Shapeless
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 11:17 am
@rosborne979,
Yeah, I saw that. I can imagine that if the myth was fatuous back then, it must be wholly untenable by now. That's why it amazes me that the Mac users I know still abide by it.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 11:25 am
@Shapeless,
Yes, there has been such an explosion of Mac viruses in the last 6 years.

There was the........


oh.. wait.. there was this one......
http://antivirus.about.com/od/macintoshresource/a/inqtanaa.htm


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rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 11:26 am
@panzade,
panzade wrote:
Guess the myth is exposed

No OS's are perfect, but I like Unix variants (like OSX) a whole lot more than I like Microsoft when it comes to security.

Macs have increased in popularity over the years and viruses have become more robust, but the same level of relative security seems to have remained stable for Mac systems.

I do part-time remote support work for Mac's and Windows and Linux systems and I have only seen virus issues (and other registry and configuration problems) on the Windows machines. The last ticket I had to clear for a Unix system was on a SCO Unix box where the administrator had screwed up the sendmail.cf file, and that was six months ago.
panzade
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 11:52 am
@rosborne979,
I'm not a techie and I prefer Windows but I have never paid for a security system(except when it was already installed) I think they're scams.

A little common sense goes a long way with securing your OS.
Now that I'm using MSEssentials I' feel very safe.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 01:47 pm
@panzade,
I run several windows systems here in my office as well, and for the most part they run well enough to be useful for a decent amount of time. As you say, a lot of it is just knowing not to open obvious junk Emails and knowing not to click on bogus web sites that ask you to download their software.

That having been said, the only machine in my office with problems right now is a 4yr old Dell desktop with WinXP on it. The video periodically scrambles and I have to reboot it, and about twice a week the whole thing blue-screens and dies. So far rebooting fixes everything so I haven't put any time in to fixing it yet. Neither of those problems are virus problems however. I think the blue screen is an overheating issue and I think the video problem is a video card problem. So both of these issues might be associated more with hardware (Dell) than with Microsoft.

One of the Macs in the office is over 7years old and the only problem I ever had with it was a burned out power supply, the repair of which resulted in the most incredibly perfect customer support call I've ever experienced. Here's what happened:
I came in one morning and the machine was completely dead. Obviously a power supply problem. So I called the Apple store in the Mall which is about 30 minutes from here. They told me to go online to their site and log an appointment with a "genius" before coming to the store. I was annoyed by that because I figured it was redundant and they wouldn't know who I was when I got there anyway. But I did it anyway. Then I drove to the mall with my desktop in tow.
When I walked into the store (a standard Apple store in a mall), one of the blue-shirts greeted me at the door and asked what I was there for. I told him and he looked me up on his handheld gadget. He found my name and my problem and escorted me to the proper place in the back of the store. The guy at the desk got to me within 5 minutes and confirmed that my power supply was the problem. I asked how long it would take to get a new one, expecting that he would tell me to come back in two weeks. But he said they had one out back and would have the machine ready in an hour. He then told me that there was a power supply recall on my machine from a few years back and he could apply that to my repair. I asked what that meant and he said it meant that everything was going to be FREE. He took my cell phone number and I went to get lunch at the food court. Almost exactly an hour later my cell phone beeped saying the machine was ready. So I retrieved my machine and sure enough, they charged me $zero$ for the entire repair. The entire experience was FLAWLESS. When the guy at the counter asked me for an evaluation of their service I told him it was almost *scary* good.

Then a month later Apple released IOS4.0 for the iPhone/iPod and screwed up everything. Now my iPod is clunky and I may need to get a more recent model to make it work again. It's hard to be perfect for long Wink
panzade
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 03:36 pm
@rosborne979,
great story Very Happy
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 20 Aug, 2010 04:02 pm
@panzade,
I can picture it. I periodically go to the mac store when I have wiped out my keyboard, and Diane went with me last time. In and out in five minutes, except that we stopped and looked at the Ipads...

Oh, and it was crowded that day.
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Chumly
 
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Reply Sat 21 Aug, 2010 08:18 pm
@rosborne979,
Ehh...I'm not particularly impressed.

Power supplies may fail on occasion, however they are really easy to replace and really cheap and easy to get. Most any half-decent computer store will have a compatible power supply in stock and ready to go.

The power supply failed on my antique Pentium III and I replaced it with a new one for $35...so what's the big deal? No big deal! And I did not have to call anyone special, or go some proprietary manufacturer's website, or pack up my computer in the car...blah...blah...blah.

The truth is that decent switch-mode power supplies are dirt cheap and a breeze to replace. The truth is that the vast majority of modern computer hardware is so reliable that it is thrown away before it fails.

There is nothing special or better or much different about Apple compared to PC's. However PC's cost much less and PC's have vastly more software available.
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Sun 22 Aug, 2010 02:59 pm
@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:
Then a month later Apple released IOS4.0 for the iPhone/iPod and screwed up everything. Now my iPod is clunky and I may need to get a more recent model to make it work again.


They have a patch for this coming out very soon.
rosborne979
 
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Reply Mon 23 Aug, 2010 04:04 am
@Robert Gentel,
I hope you're right. Nothing seems to work right on it as it is now, and it's now running V4.0.2 and still having problems.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Mon 23 Aug, 2010 09:58 am
@rosborne979,
Steve Jobs emailed someone about it saying a software fix was coming soon, so I think it's highly likely that they will resolve it in short order. But when the new generation comes out (looks to be soon) I'd upgrade the hardware anyway, the v 4 update was a big leap forward and does things that use resources. How much of those things will be hobbled to make it run smoothly on that generation of hardware remains to be seen but I've gone from that generation of hardware to the 3GS one and couldn't imagine dealing with that sluggishness again (and the next ones are even a bit faster).
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albert r
 
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Reply Wed 22 Sep, 2010 09:45 pm
@CalamityJane,
do you mean that it is part of the OS?
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flipperz
 
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Reply Thu 23 Sep, 2010 10:26 pm
@DrewDad,
The news article has since been corrected to reflect that no Mac computers were involved.
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Fanofmac
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2010 05:56 am
@Shapeless,
ProteMac NetMine is a very nice program that protect your computer from unwanted intrusions.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Wed 8 Dec, 2010 06:21 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Not really. MAC is better in the sense it has more reliable h/w and an OS that is good at keeping from being hacked and virus-laden. That isn't to say it's better over all or better for certain types of users. This an age-old discussion similar to which religion or make of cars is better.

PCs (and MS Operating System) has far more s/w applications written for it/them. The number of pcs vs MAC are still 10:1. And this has been true for over 20 yrs. Do you honestly think that sort of majority of users are that crazy or distorted viewpoint?

Historically MAC had long donated free or heavily discounted MAC to adacemia so they have long had the college market sewn up. For many yrs the art and graphics community have been locked into MAC because they're very easy to learn to use and calibrate for artist/painters/photographers.
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