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What Chelsea Clinton's Wedding Says About Religious Syncretism

 
 
aidan
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 06:35 am
@Miller,
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Looks like Bill didn't buy a new suit for the wedding and on top of it, he's lost a lot of weight.


I know - a friend and I were talking about how the neck of his shirt looks too big and commenting that often that sort of weight loss means an illness. I know he's had heart problems in the past and surgery - I really hope he's not sick.

But at least he was there to give Chelsea away on her big day. I know a lot of women feel that's patronizing and paternalistic - but I'm sure she was happy to be able to walk down the aisle on his arm. I'm glad she had the chance to.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 08:37 am
@aidan,
aidan wrote:

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Looks like Bill didn't buy a new suit for the wedding and on top of it, he's lost a lot of weight.




But at least he was there to give Chelsea away on her big day.
I know a lot of women feel that's patronizing and paternalistic -
but I'm sure she was happy to be able to walk down the aisle on his arm. I'm glad she had the chance to.
I guess that 's uniquely female, right ?
aidan
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 08:55 am
@OmSigDAVID,
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I guess that 's uniquely female, right ?

What? To be a bride and walk down the aisle on your father's arm? Is this a trick question or something?

Yes, up until now it's been a uniquely female experience. But I guess that could change with same-sex marriages.
Maybe the mom will walk the son down (if there are two men) and I don't know which way it'd go if two girls were getting married.
Interesting to think about...would anyone still want their dad to walk them down the aisle?
I know I liked it. One of my favorite pictures of him and me together is him walking me down the aisle.

Laughing Laughing Laughing I'm laughing at this question David - have you not been to very many weddings in America?

Anyway - I hope Bill isn't sick and I'm glad they had this happy day together.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 09:33 am
@aidan,
I think Chelsea's request to her dad that he lose 15 pounds before the wedding was not made out of concern for how the photos would look. He's joked about her request, and, it is funny, but, it is also serious.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 09:37 am
@aidan,
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Bill looks proud and happy ...


To be a pervert? Most people would be ASHAMED to be a pervert....
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 09:39 am
@gungasnake,
Are you happy and proud to be perpetually sour? As someone said above, let her. . . make that them . . . have their happy wedding day.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 10:14 am
@aidan,
David wrote:
I guess that 's uniquely female, right ?
aidan wrote:
What? To be a bride and walk down the aisle on your father's arm?
Is this a trick question or something?

Yes, up until now it's been a uniquely female experience.
But I guess that could change with same-sex marriages.
Will their MOTHERS walk them down the aisle ?



aidan wrote:
Maybe the mom will walk the son down (if there are two men) and I don't know which way it'd go
if two girls were getting married.
Interesting to think about...would anyone still want their dad to walk them down the aisle?
I know I liked it. One of my favorite pictures of him and me together is him walking me down the aisle.

Laughing Laughing Laughing I'm laughing at this question David - have you not been to very many weddings in America?
Not very many; maybe 5.





David
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 10:53 am
@OmSigDAVID,
When I married, both my parents walked me down the aisle. Nearly all my friends were escorted by both their parents when they married post-1969. It was a feminist response.
YOUNEED2GETAHOBBY
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 11:49 am
@aidan,
I'm a partnered gay man. I think that, at least in my case, the whole marriage ceremony would only be a cheap imitation of a straight "wedding." Personally, vows to one another are the most important reason for partnering--the venue that that takes is really secondary. I think of the "wedding" as more of a feminine celebration--but to each his or her own.

Regardless, Bill Clinton isn't much of role model for vows, whether they be straight traditional marriages, or same-sex unions. Walking his daughter down the aisle is rather a strange mental visual irony, but I digress.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 11:56 am
@YOUNEED2GETAHOBBY,
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Regardless, Bill Clinton isn't much of role model for vows, whether they be straight traditional marriages, or same-sex unions. Walking his daughter down the aisle is rather a strange mental visual irony, but I digress
In a similar vein, his trotting out in interviews that he was so thrilled about the wedding because he has always considered being a father his most important job was puke worthy. It was sweet to hear him say those words long ago before we knew Bill Clinton as we know him now, but after all the affairs, interns, and then trying to destroy these women after word go out, not so much.
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aidan
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 12:24 pm
@YOUNEED2GETAHOBBY,
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I'm a partnered gay man. I think that, at least in my case, the whole marriage ceremony would only be a cheap imitation of a straight "wedding." Personally, vows to one another are the most important reason for partnering--the venue that that takes is really secondary. I think of the "wedding" as more of a feminine celebration--but to each his or her own.

That's probably true. I didn't care that much about it except for the flowers and my dress. I lived 500 miles away from home and that's where we were getting married so I left most of the rest of it to my sister and my mother. They enjoyed planning it and I was happy with what they came up with - as per dj- I just wanted it to be outside - and it was - thank goodness it was a nice day.

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Regardless, Bill Clinton isn't much of role model for vows, whether they be straight traditional marriages, or same-sex unions. Walking his daughter down the aisle is rather a strange mental visual irony, but I digress.

Bill may not have been a perfect husband, but walking down the aisle with your dad is not about that. Your dad could have divorced your mom but you would still love him as your dad.
Hawkeye said:
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In a similar vein, his trotting out in interviews that he was so thrilled about the wedding because he has always considered being a father his most important job was puke worthy. It was sweet to hear him say those words long ago before we knew Bill Clinton as we know him now, but after all the affairs, interns, and then trying to destroy these women after word go out, not so much.

And I don't think it's pukey that he's said how much he enjoyed being her dad.
No one is perfect. If she asked him to walk her down the aisle, she must have some good feelings and fondness for him as her father. That's all that matters and that's between him and her.
YOUNEED2GETAHOBBY
 
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Reply Sun 8 Aug, 2010 12:58 pm
@aidan,
Yeah, it always seems like the more it's planned and the more it's rehearsed, the less joy the couple experiences--at least for the friends I've had experience it.

My comment about Clinton? I will have to stick with that--perhaps his daughter doesn't care and I consider your point as being a valid one, as I am only showing my discomfort about how it looks.
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 9 Aug, 2010 07:40 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

When I married, both my parents walked me down the aisle. Nearly all my friends were escorted by both their parents when they married post-1969. It was a feminist response.


I've never seen that...
Miller
 
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Reply Mon 9 Aug, 2010 07:44 pm
@Miller,
Why didn't Mark wear his glasses during the service?

Did you notice how he was looking at Chelsea? He must be a myope.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 9 Aug, 2010 08:51 pm
@Miller,
AS I said, all of my friends were given away by both their parents. The weddings were all held between 1969 and 1976.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Tue 10 Aug, 2010 10:46 am
@Miller,
Miller wrote:

Why didn't Mark wear his glasses during the service?

Did you notice how he was looking at Chelsea? He must be a myope.


Is there a relevant point here? Or, just being a yenta?
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