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Is this true or a hoax? Texans, what do you know about this?

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 08:07 pm
@ebrown p,
Yeh, but, doppus, zetas are real. It isn't useful to just deny their systemic presence.


Don't you dare yell at me as anglo anti mexico.

Go to the library, get the May 31, 2010 New Yorker and read it.

Finnegan's is a perplexing article.

I think the north of the border stuff is bullshit, re which I say fear is doing a doubling.

Wake up.

ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 08:20 pm
@ossobuco,
Sure Zetas are real. I have family in Mexico, in fact I have family in Cd. Juarez (widely known as the center of the drug war). I know about the Zetas and what they have done to Mexicans.

I also know that they are not a real threat to average Americans. Even along the border, very few Americans are getting killed. This is a big story in Mexico. This is not a big story in America (except for those of us who care about people in Mexico).

This lie (and it is a lie) is simply a very convenient way for racist hate groups to get people who don't want to be racist riled up against Mexicans.

There is a real story here, if you care about the people (i.e. Mexicans) who are suffering at the hands of the Zetas.

Of course, the real villains in the story are the American customers... who keep the Zetas in business supplying them with obscene amounts of money and selling them guns.

If the real story were posted, instead of the hateful exaggerated lies of hate groups, I wouldn't be so upset.




panzade
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 08:26 pm
Quote:
I Love My Country So Very Much.


How can you love your country and hate your government?
ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 08:30 pm
@panzade,
Quote:
How can you love your country and hate your government?


The slogan "my race is my country" is posted all over Stormfront (my favorite White Supremacist website).
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 08:32 pm
@ebrown p,
ebrown p wrote:

Sure Zetas are real. I have family in Mexico, in fact I have family in Cd. Juarez (widely known as the center of the drug war). I know about the Zetas and what they have done to Mexicans.

Quote:
I also know that they are not a real threat to average Americans. Even along the border, very few Americans are getting killed. This is a big story in Mexico. This is not a big story in America (except for those of us who care about people in Mexico).


You think you are the only one who gives a ****? Is that the seat of your anger?
I don't, as I think your anger started before the blossoming of the zetas.

I don't remember what this is related to -
"This lie (and it is a lie) is simply a very convenient way for racist hate groups to get people who don't want to be racist riled up against Mexicans."

There is a real story here, if you care about the people (i.e. Mexicans) who are suffering at the hands of the Zetas.
Of course, the real villains in the story are the American customers... who keep the Zetas in business supplying them with obscene amounts of money and selling them guns.
If the real story were posted, instead of the hateful exaggerated lies of hate groups, I wouldn't be so upset.

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I assume you haven't checked the Finnegan article. I trust you don't assume I always automatically disagree with you?

Your anger is in your way, ebrown.


ebrown p
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 08:41 pm
@ossobuco,
Quote:

You think you are the only one who gives a ****? Is that the seat of your anger?
I don't, as I think your anger started before the blossoming of the zetas.


No.

I am angry that people are making up stories to inflame hatred and fear of Mexicans. These stories are lies designed to play on peoples ignorance and prejudice. The fact that these stories have half-truths (i.e. there is really a criminal gang called the Zetas) doesn't make them any less despicable.

A true story, told for the purpose of raising sympathy and support for people facing a real difficult situation, wouldn't upset me. A false story, told for the purpose of inciting hatred and fear, does.

((ironically the targets of the hate groups that made up this story, are the same people who are the real victims of criminal gangs like the Zetas))
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 08:46 pm
@ebrown p,
Well, of course. Do you think most of us do not get that -

No one here got that I saw the two sides weirdly mixing re the use of fear of zetas.

I'm wind whistling.

Get a grip, ebrown, not all of us are after your hide.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jul, 2010 09:38 pm
@ebrown p,
Mame could have done a better job of separating her own commentary at the top from the quoted material below the line, couldn't she?

______________________________ Like that.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 04:10 am
A local television station in Laredo is reporting that the rumors are NOT true. It is one of those internet stories that went out of control.

(Emphasis added by me.)

Quote:
Sheriff's Dept. Addresses Rumors About Zetas Taking Over Ranches
(Pro 8 News.com Laredo, Texas, July 29, 2010)

Throughout the weekend and this week viewers and those living in other cities have called the Pro 8 newsroom regarding reports about Zetas taking over two ranches in the outskirts of Laredo.

Thursday the Sheriff's department held a press conference to address the issue, they said the rumors are not true.

Officials told Pro 8 News people have also been calling the county jail, Laredo police and Webb County Sheriff's department.

"We were having issues with our daily operations because of the numerous amount of calls,” said Asst. Chief Pete Arredondo with the Webb County Sheriff's department.

In midst of the bloody drug war across the border that's turned Nuevo Laredo into a ghost town, allegations indicating Zetas had seized ranches began circulating through different media outlets.

"This whole ordeal with the rumors have taken on a form all of it's own,” Laredo Police department Inv. Joe Baeza said.

An article from a Houston newspaper online posted the allegations as breaking news, indicating the writer spoke with sources confirming the rumors were true. It even stated there was a media blackout about this matter. "This is probably a good case study as how far reaching instant media is and how quickly it can spin out of control,” added Baeza.

The Webb County Sheriff's department said it was ranches in this northwest area of Laredo off Mines Road which had been supposedly seized.

"We went and exhausted that avenue checked the locations, ranches talked to property owners, their neighbors and searched other ranches in that area just to be safe,” Arredondo said.

Though the rumors instilled fear among some people Arredondo said Laredoans living in the area didn't know much about the allegations in the first place.

“Most didn't know what we were talking about,” Arredondo told Pro 8 News.

Bottom line is local law enforcement agencies are working together taking extra safety measures to ensure those living on this side of the border are safe.

"We're prepared, we're prepared as a law enforcement community to react to anything that may happen,” said Deputy Chief Gabriel Martinez from the Laredo Police Department.

Officials also said the rumors grabbed national attention.

If you notice any suspicious activity you are urged to call 727-TIPS.
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Mame
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 04:43 am
thank you, wandel! Smile I thought as much.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 04:44 am
All we can do is debunk the crazy new stories, each time one flames like that. Hatred and insanity will never go away. All we can do is try to halt the misinformation before much damage gets done.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 30 Jul, 2010 08:03 am
a complication to stories like the above is that there is usually an element of the public thatt wants to believe it's true therefore it gets perpetuated. Be it the discovery of a "gay gene" or "nuclear energy is too dangerous" or "muslims routinely practice sexual mutilation on females". When someone or someones wants the story, regardless of their political leanings, to be true, it will remain true to them regardless of what facts are offered to disprove the "information." "Obama is a socialist" and "go to bed with wet hair and you'll wake up sick".
A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest
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