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Thu 22 Jul, 2010 05:41 pm
My mother in law has been in a local hospital, going from there to rehab and back to the hospital, and repeating, for many weeks. In a recent development, she has had to have two transfusions. My wife and her sisters have noted blood in her urine. The doctor tells them she is doing fine. When asked about the bloody urine, he seems uninformed. Later, it is put out that the medication is all that's causing her to bleed. Then, the next morning, the doctor signs her out and wants her returned to rehab. The sister on the scene refuses to sign her out. "She is not leaving here, bleeding like that."
A few weeks ago, the family was asked to begin paying the hospital $200 per day. None of us could agree to that. I am wondering if they have decided to withhold further treatment. Does anybody know of an acceptable situation, in which a patient is allowed to bleed like that?
@edgarblythe,
On weekends doctors on duty may be only interns.
@talk72000,
I am referring to week days.
@edgarblythe,
Then get a second opinion from a reputable doctor. If the doctor indicates malpractice then consult a lawyer but I don't know if the new healthcare bill prevents patients from suing their doctors?
Bloody urine and he seemed uninformed? That's not right. Was the medication a blood thinner?
@edgarblythe,
What medications was she being given? Knowing what medications she was given will help inform you as to whether blood in the urine is a side effect.
Which doctor is it that seemed uninformed about blood in the urine, her primary doctor at the hospital, a doctor doing rounds on a shift, a doctor at the rehab?
Why was she moved from the rehab to the hospital? What was the medical situation that required hospitalization?
In the last few months of my dad's life at a nursing home/rehab, we made use of the state hospice services to be his advocate. Does Texas have such a service?
@Butrflynet,
They would be an advocate in a situation like this?
When a nurse told my sister in law that she could not give her any information, she had the nurse call in a doctor. This is the one who was uninformed. I don't know if he is the same doctor that was there today. It gets a bit confusing, because the sisters and a brother rotate visiting days to afford each some relief. The doctor that tried to release her today about had to be the primary doc. I get my information second hand.
@Butrflynet,
Another resource is your state ombudsman service. Here's a list of ombudsmen from the Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services:
http://www.dads.state.tx.us/contact/aaa.cfm
A question to ask is: did she have a fever? So a urinary tract infection. Are further tests warranted to rule out an abnormality in her urinary tract? One assumes the doctor seeking to discharge her would know the answers there. As was said a patient advocate would be helpful.
If it was my mother, I'd look at it this way: a little blood in urine can look like a lot because it all turns red. Active bleeding is a different story... there would be clots in it. Not only the doctors, but the nurses would all have to be clueless to send her out that way. A clear explanation from the doctor about how the medication causes bleeding, assurance that other possibilities have been examined, and a clear understanding of when to expect the bleeding to stop would prompt me to accept the discharge. Then monitor the situation and if it doesn't stop according to schedule, a visit to a regular doctor would be indicated.
@edgarblythe,
I don't know if it helps with your question, but I spent a few weeks in a rehab hospital. The emphasis was on physical therapy, not medical treatment. If she needs much beyond routine medication, and it sounds like she does) it is not the place for her.
Now they explain it this way: She has an aneurysm on her kidney. They had given her drugs to take care of it and had given positive reports. Now, the doctor claims he intends to surgically fix it, but later on. For now, wants to send her to rehab. The sister that is taking charge told the doctor she will not take her out of the hospital before the surgery gets done. So, now, we wait for the next move.
@edgarblythe,
aneurysm on kidney?
(I probably don't know enough to ask)
@talk72000,
talk72000 wrote:
Then get a second opinion from a reputable doctor. If the doctor indicates malpractice then consult a lawyer but I don't know if the new healthcare bill prevents patients from suing their doctors?
Interesting American response.
Consider malpractice immediately....don't bother to find out the real problem!
@ossobuco,
At first, I hear aneurysm. Now it's said to be a cyst.
@edgarblythe,
Tomorrow, I may tell you something else. I get all this second hand, through mrs edgarblythe.