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Dualism vs non dualism

 
 
Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 11:54 am
I won’t be so bold to say that all human conflict is rooted in dualist vs. non dualist thought, but it seems to me that throughout history much of human conflict can be traced, in one way or another, to the differences between those schools of thought. It further seems to me that those differences are irreconcilable.

So what do y’all think?
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kennethamy
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 11:57 am
@chad3006,
chad3006 wrote:

I won’t be so bold to say that all human conflict is rooted in dualist vs. non dualist thought, but it seems to me that throughout history much of human conflict can be traced, in one way or another, to the differences between those schools of thought. It further seems to me that those differences are irreconcilable.

So what do y’all think?



I think it is a good thing you are not so bold as to say that, since if you did, you would need some reasons to think it was true, and do far as I can tell, you have none. Boldness is fine, but maintaining views without support is folly.
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Arjuna
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 12:01 pm
@chad3006,
chad3006 wrote:

I won’t be so bold to say that all human conflict is rooted in dualist vs. non dualist thought, but it seems to me that throughout history much of human conflict can be traced, in one way or another, to the differences between those schools of thought. It further seems to me that those differences are irreconcilable.

So what do y’all think?

Fascinating topic. By dualist, do you refer to Abrahamic religions?

All human conflict begins with duality and ends without it. That's how we got to be a global creature. Very Happy
chad3006
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 12:13 pm
@Arjuna,
Arjuna wrote:

chad3006 wrote:

I won’t be so bold to say that all human conflict is rooted in dualist vs. non dualist thought, but it seems to me that throughout history much of human conflict can be traced, in one way or another, to the differences between those schools of thought. It further seems to me that those differences are irreconcilable.

So what do y’all think?

Fascinating topic. By dualist, do you refer to Abrahamic religions?

All human conflict begins with duality and ends without it. That's how we got to be a global creature. Very Happy


Well I wasn’t necessarily thinking strictly in terms of religions, but yes that could certainly be included. I should also say that many times these schools of thought aren’t always referred to with these particular terms. I’m thinking of a kind of “big picture” that includes the grey areas between these schools of thought as well.
Arjuna
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 12:27 pm
@chad3006,
chad3006 wrote:

Well I wasn’t necessarily thinking strictly in terms of religions, but yes that could certainly be included. I should also say that many times these schools of thought aren’t always referred to with these particular terms. I’m thinking of a kind of “big picture” that includes the grey areas between these schools of thought as well.
Could you give an example?
chad3006
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 12:34 pm
@Arjuna,
Well let's see .... in some instances perhaps, Native Americans vs. Western colonists, or Western philosophy vs. Eastern philosophy. Again, I'm not meaning to imply that these instances are always stricly dualist or non dualist, but in more general terms.
kennethamy
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 12:40 pm
@chad3006,
chad3006 wrote:

Well let's see .... in some instances perhaps, Native Americans vs. Western colonists, or Western philosophy vs. Eastern philosophy. Again, I'm not meaning to imply that these instances are always stricly dualist or non dualist, but in more general terms.


Very general, indeed. How do you feel about male and female. Are you against that too?
chad3006
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 12:45 pm
@kennethamy,
Yes, I'm very much against male and female. That should be obvious.
kennethamy
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 11:18 pm
@chad3006,
chad3006 wrote:

Yes, I'm very much against male and female. That should be obvious.


You don't think there is any difference between men and women? The famous story goes that during the long debate at the French National Assembly over women's suffrage, one member arose to say that after all, the difference between men and women was very small, at which another member arose to shout out, "Mais, vive la differance". (Hooray for the difference!). I agree with him.
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jeeprs
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jul, 2010 11:28 pm
@chad3006,
the problem is that (1) I don't think you understand what 'non-dualist' means - correct me if I'm wrong - and (2) there is actually no conflict between non-dualism and dualism, because a non-dualism is generally a very pacifist outlook which avoids conflict.
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