Church of England to Apologise to Darwin

Another bird discovery that refutes Archie.

If Archie was the bird that was to be the transional that all other birds evoloved from. Why do we see another bird named Eoalulavis? It existed at the same time as Archaeopteryx, and this bird had no teeth, it had a beak, feathers, and a skeletal structure as modern birds.

Another new discovery of a fossil bird called Liaoningornis in northeastern China shows us a sparrow-size bird, and it possesses a keeled sternum which is seen in modern birds. It is said to be around 137 to 142 million years old.
I know you want to believe in evolution, yet why believe in evolution when it is obvious that the bird you have chossen for a transional is surrounded by birds that are already equipped with what we see in modern birds today?

I'm not useing blind faith, I'm just looking at what science has already discovered. And I have accepted their findings.

another? You still haven't provided one yet!



nope, nope and nope. I don't know where you getting your information but it's incorrect. This bird is actually younger than archeopteryx and it's only noticeable difference from it is a structure on it's wings that allowed it to fly faster.






The single fossil is an incomplete semi - articulated skeleton the size of a sparrow. It includes both feet, the right leg, the sternum, part of the right arm, and fragmentary coracoids and pubes. Its accession number is IVPP11303. It is in the collection of the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology in Beijing.



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Smithsonian Institution debunks Bird Evolution.

The Idea of feathered dinosaurs and the theropod origin of birds is being actively promulgated by a cadre of zealous scientists acting in concert with certain editors at Nature and National Geographic who themselves have become outspoken and highly biased proselytizers of the faith.

Full letter link below.

Smithsonian critiques National Geographic in open letter

go there and ask them if they believe in evolution, do it!



You mean like 99% of scientists?





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So I will ask you again, where did you get your 99% of scientest?
You seem to throw that percentage out a lot, yet you never give me any legitmate source for it.

And are you saying answergenesis printed a phoney letter with adress and phone number. If you think they did, why don't you call the phone number given at the bottom of the letter to confirm your suspicions?

Another bird discovery that refutes Archie. If Archie was the bird that was to be the transional that all other birds evoloved from. Why do we see another bird named Eoalulavis? It existed at the same time as Archaeopteryx, and this bird had no teeth, it had a beak, feathers, and a skeletal structure as modern birds. If birds existed already with the features as modern birds, why do you think they had to evolove from Archie?

Another new discovery of a fossil bird called Liaoningornis in northeastern China shows us a sparrow-size bird, and it possesses a keeled sternum which is seen in modern birds. It is said to be around 137 to 142 million years old.
I know you want to believe in evolution, yet why believe in evolution when it is obvious that the bird you have chossen for a transional is surrounded by birds that are already equipped with what we see in modern birds today?

I'm not useing blind faith, I'm just looking at what science has already discovered. And I have accepted their findings.

Eoalulavis dates back 115 million years ago. You have 35 million years of hole to account for.



You STILL have a hole to fill... seven million years to be exact.



Then why are you using creatures several million years younger than Archaeopteryx to discount Archaeopteryx? If you accept science's findings, then you need to accept that the Earth is a bit older than you expected.

Your right, I should use something much older than Archaeopteryx, like Longisquama. They say it lived 220 million years ago, and it had hollow bones and feathers. According to Science magazine of June 2000. It believes it may be the real ancestor to birds. However with Evolution, you can believe whatever you want, because it is not really hard science we are talking about heaar. It is more assumptions, and speculation.

So time and time again your views are refuted and answers given to everything you throw.

So for the Forth time of asking, will you please demonstrate the evidence which shows us their is a God. Surely there must be some physical evidence out there.

For a Universe only 6-10,000 years old there must be something, we have artifacts from those time periods. There must be something that depicts the creation of the universe from then, surely?

Can you show us please? This is the Forth time I have asked.

You mean this?



Hollow bones... sure, why not? Feathers... you could call them the precursors of modern feathers.

A bird? Hardly.

Keep trying, though...

Well I can't explain everything thats for sure, yet I base much of what I believe in the Bible and it's intergity. Now I know you don't believe the Bible in the same way I do, yet lets take the story of the flood. I doubt that you believe in the Biblical Flood account. However, if the flood never happened, could you explain to me why they have located Whale bones 440 feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario? And a skeleton of another whale in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level. And another Whale was found near Montreal-Ouebec, about 600 feet above sea level. Maybe those were walking whales, because outside of swimming, that's the only way they could of got there. LOL. Can you explain that physical evidence?

if the flood never happened, could you explain to me why they have located Whale bones 440 feet above sea level,

More birdlike than velociraptors and more dinosaur like than archeopteryx:






[SIZE="4"]Rahonavis[/SIZE] has historically been the subject of some uncertainty as to its proper taxonomic position--whether it is a member of the clade Aves or a closely-related dromaeosaurid. The presence of quill knobs on its ulna (forearm bone) led initially to its inclusion among the birds; however, the rest of the skeleton is rather typically dromaeosaurid in its attributes. Given the extremely close affinities between primitive birds and their dromaeosaurid cousins, along with the possibility that flight may have developed and been lost multiple times among these groups, it has been difficult to place Rahonavis firmly among or outside the birds. Rahonavis could be a close relative to Archaeopteryx, as originally suggested by the describers, and thus a member of the clade Aves, but while the pelvis shows adaptations to flight similar in function to those of Archaeopteryx, they seem to be independently derived.

Hey don't blame me, it was science magazine that made that claim, and others into Evolution. At least it looks more like a bird than a dinosaur. I will leave it up to you and your other Evolution buddies to fight over this nonsense. LOL.

Well I can't explain everything thats for sure, yet I base much of what I believe in the Bible and it's intergity. Now I know you don't believe the Bible in the same way I do, yet lets take the story of the flood. I doubt that you believe in the Biblical Flood account. However, if the flood never happened, could you explain to me why they have located Whale bones 440 feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario? And a skeleton of another whale in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level. And another Whale was found near Montreal-Ouebec, about 600 feet above sea level. Maybe those were walking whales, because outside of swimming, that's the only way they could of got there. LOL. Can you explain that physical evidence?

As has been stated: plate tectonics.

Can you explain where all the water to create this "flood" went?

Plate tectonics are also the reason we are above the flood of the past.
Consider link below.

Where did the Genesis Flood waters go? - ChristianAnswers.Net

Plate tectonics are also the reason we are above the flood of the past.
Consider link below.

Where did the Genesis Flood waters go? - ChristianAnswers.Net