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Gods Porn

 
 
FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 01:19 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
This will be my second time to you.

IMO God is a concept for people to hide behind when they cannot face reality.
klyph
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 02:15 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
Can you accept the FACT that there is one being that has more power than any other being?
FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 02:50 pm
@klyph,
klyph;36207 wrote:
Can you accept the FACT that there is one being that has more power than any other being?


If we are comparing a HUMAN being to a HUMAN being.

Apples and apples, you know.
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Freeman15
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 03:12 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
FedUpAmerican;36204 wrote:
This will be my second time to you.

IMO God is a concept for people to hide behind when they cannot face reality.


So people think to themselves, "this fake idea will protect me" or "this almighty being will protect me"?

You UNDERSTAND the premise of "god", you simply reject it and editorialize it as "a concept for people to hide behind". I agree with you, people hide behind the conept of "god", but what is the concept? The concept is a being than which no greater can be concieved.
FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 03:34 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;36219 wrote:

The concept is a being than which no greater can be concieved.


That is not everyones concept. Admittedly, some feeble minded fools have that belief but I do not consider myself one.

BTW, what's the point of all this???

What does it have to do with the OP Gods Porn?

Seems to me like you're getting a bit off the beaten path.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 03:45 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
FedUpAmerican;36225 wrote:
That is not everyones concept. Admittedly, some feeble minded fools have that belief but I do not consider myself one.

BTW, what's the point of all this???

What does it have to do with the OP Gods Porn?

Seems to me like you're getting a bit off the beaten path.


You questioned whether or not I could prove god existed, I'm proving it.

You have an opinion of the concept, you believe that it is in a way a crutch for the weak minded, but you understand the concept, and your anti-christian bias is showing. "God" does not have to be an intelligent being, "god" can simply be exactly as I have mentioned, "that than which no greater can be concieved". Fact is, you clearly understand what "god" denotes, and you reject it. So to you, the concept if for the feeble minded, and SERVES as a shield, but the concept itself remains unchanged. Fascism as a concept is the merger of the state and the corporate worlds. Some view it as a path to peace, others as a repugnant force for evil, but the idea of the state/corporate relationship doesn't change. So you see, you do recognize the premise of "god" by now, you simply view it in a negative light.
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 05:09 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;36201 wrote:
So define "god" then.


Imaginary
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 05:10 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;36227 wrote:
You questioned whether or not I could prove god existed, I'm proving it.

You have an opinion of the concept, you believe that it is in a way a crutch for the weak minded, but you understand the concept, and your anti-christian bias is showing. "God" does not have to be an intelligent being, "god" can simply be exactly as I have mentioned, "that than which no greater can be concieved". Fact is, you clearly understand what "god" denotes, and you reject it. So to you, the concept if for the feeble minded, and SERVES as a shield, but the concept itself remains unchanged. Fascism as a concept is the merger of the state and the corporate worlds. Some view it as a path to peace, others as a repugnant force for evil, but the idea of the state/corporate relationship doesn't change. So you see, you do recognize the premise of "god" by now, you simply view it in a negative light.


Your proof lies in people Believing in Gods existence in the first place.
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 05:12 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
Here it is. Your Argument is not valid. ONLY those who BELIEVE that god exists will take your argument as proof.

But you are defining something that I do not believe exists.

You can describe a unicorn as a horse witn a horn, and I can picture what you are referring to, but that does NOT prove a unicorn exists other than in the imagination which you and I have agreed on

Reality > Imagination.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 06:12 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;36233 wrote:
Your proof lies in people Believing in Gods existence in the first place.


No, my proof lies in the existence of the concept of God in the first place. Re-read my first post.
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Freeman15
 
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Reply Mon 10 Sep, 2007 06:15 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;36234 wrote:
Here it is. Your Argument is not valid. ONLY those who BELIEVE that god exists will take your argument as proof.

But you are defining something that I do not believe exists.

You can describe a unicorn as a horse witn a horn, and I can picture what you are referring to, but that does NOT prove a unicorn exists other than in the imagination which you and I have agreed on

Reality > Imagination.


Ok, so I describe a being that is greater than anything else that can be concieved, and you can picture that, therefore it exists in the imaginary. Since, as you just said, reality trumps the imaginary, God MUST logically exist since it is "that than which no greater can be concieved". It begins in the imaginary, but then through the belief in reality > imaginary, it becomes reality because of its definition.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 09:40 am
@FedUpAmerican,
The concept of there being God makes God reality?

There is also a concept of a 300 ft clitoris.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 12:25 pm
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;36340 wrote:
The concept of there being God makes God reality?

There is also a concept of a 300 ft clitoris.


The concept of a 300ft clitoris isn't "that than which no greater can be concieved". If the concept of "that than which no greater can be concieved" exists in the imaginary, and reality is greater than imaginary, logically the concept must also exist in the reality.
klyph
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 12:28 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
This is going over a lot of peoples heads. You're not seeing the correlation between the way he's quantifying reality and the way he's defining God.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 12:31 pm
@klyph,
klyph;36374 wrote:
This is going over a lot of peoples heads. You're not seeing the correlation between the way he's quantifying reality and the way he's defining God.


Sad thing is, I don't even believe in God (not in the traditional sense).
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FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 12:43 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
What's so sad about THAT???
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FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 12:45 pm
@Freeman15,
Freeman15;36227 wrote:
You questioned whether or not I could prove god existed, I'm proving it.

You have an opinion of the concept, you believe that it is in a way a crutch for the weak minded, but you understand the concept, and your anti-christian bias is showing. "God" does not have to be an intelligent being, "god" can simply be exactly as I have mentioned, "that than which no greater can be concieved". Fact is, you clearly understand what "god" denotes, and you reject it. So to you, the concept if for the feeble minded, and SERVES as a shield, but the concept itself remains unchanged. Fascism as a concept is the merger of the state and the corporate worlds. Some view it as a path to peace, others as a repugnant force for evil, but the idea of the state/corporate relationship doesn't change. So you see, you do recognize the premise of "god" by now, you simply view it in a negative light.


LOL!

Some proof!

God exists because you say he does??? :beat:

THAT'S funny.
Freeman15
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 01:25 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
FedUpAmerican;36379 wrote:
LOL!

Some proof!

God exists because you say he does??? :beat:

THAT'S funny.


Ok, I'll use a basic "greater-than/less-than" illustration, and if you don't understand it after this, well, we're in a lot of trouble.

Reality > Imaginary
So
Things in Reality > Things in Imaginary

"god", "snoof", "puzz" whatever you want to call it, is defined as a concept as, "that than which no greater can be concieved". Meaning, we as humans cannot concieve (meaning create or imagine) anything greater than "god", "snoof", "puzz", etc. "God" is simply the name assigned to the concept in the Christian tradition, "allah", "tao", or "lamalamadingdong" are all names that could be assigned to this concept as well.

Now, we know that this concept, which we'll call "x" exists in the imaginary, since we are able to comprehend it. Things in reality are greater than those in the imaginary, as noted by the above illustration, so all things in reality are better than all things in the imaginary.

"X" however denotes a concept than which no greater can be concieved. If reality trumps imaginary, then "x" cannot exist at all without also existing in the reality. We know "x" exists in the imaginary, and so it must, be its very definition and nature exist in reality. Otherwise, the concept could not exist in the imaginary, which it clearly does.

You assume that "x" must be a "god" in the Christian tradition, because you hold an anti-christian stance, and so you have spent a lot of time attempting to deny the concept of "x". "X" or "god" simply denotes a being, whether it be involved in our lives or not, than which no greater can be concieved. Taoists like myself for example contend that a force binds all organisms together, and this force is known as "tao". It doesn't answer prayers or send us messiahs, but it does exist, and logic proves that it exists.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 01:33 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
He understands, he's just not willing to accept it. IMO
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westernmom
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 01:54 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
Okay, define "love". Does it really exist???
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