Why deny man immortality

I checked these out. I had never heard of them. They appear to be defunk or near defunk.

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DL

If there is sin and hell in your reality then the death of Jesus was wasted. He did not forgive sin and close the gates of hell.
Eve did the right think or God would have made His adjustments in the beginning when there were only two. He would not wait and kill millions later.
Refute that if you can without your funny biblical twists and turns.

Follow your looser God.

Regards
DL

There is sin and Hell, and not only in my reality, but in the Bible which you donot believe. You pick and choose what you want to believe out of the Bible. You are basically calling Gods Word a Book of Lies. So if that is the case, why would you even believe in Jesus? You have choosen to make up your own belief in God, and have rejected the Biblical account. I feel sorry for you, but the Bible tells us there will be those who will not receive the message or God's gift of salvation, I believe you are one of those. You have allowed your own imagination to replace God's truth. And I can tell you that at the end of time, your fantasy God will not be there to save you.

There is sin and Hell, and not only in my reality, but in the Bible which you donot believe. You pick and choose what you want to believe out of the Bible. You are basically calling Gods Word a Book of Lies. So if that is the case, why would you even believe in Jesus? You have choosen to make up your own belief in God, and have rejected the Biblical account. I feel sorry for you, but the Bible tells us there will be those who will not receive the message or God's gift of salvation, I believe you are one of those. You have allowed your own imagination to replace God's truth. And I can tell you that at the end of time, your fantasy God will not be there to save you.

You will be to busy looking for talking snakes and miss God all together.

You are the one that has yet to tell us why Jesus died for nothing.
I believe that He forgave all sin. You do not. Who does not believe the Bible?

Regards
DL

IMO, one shouldn't believe in the Bible. One should believe in God, in Christ, and attempt to discern Their/His will by studying and interpreting the Bible. The Bible is one tool of many. Obsessions with the Bible can lead to idolatry -- that's right -- the inappropriate channeling of faith into something other than God. I can anticipate certain responses here -- "The Bible is the Word of God, and says Jesus Himself was the Word." Nonetheless, that's metaphorical language that shouldn't be taken literally. We know Jesus was more than a word. He was a man. He was made of flesh and blood, and he lived, taught, and died well before any Bible came into existence. Therefore, we must stay focused on Him, and nothing else, primarily.

If you say we should not believe in the Bible, why should we believe in Christ?

If not for the Bible you would of never heard of the name Jesus Christ, and that same Bible tells you He died on the Cross to save sinners. And that same Bible tells us (WHOSOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL BE SAVED.)
(That part you donot believe.) I believe that part.

I think we must believe the Bible, and believe in Christ. This is a fine, fine distinction. The Bible informs, teaches, enlightens, guides and inspires, but it doesn't replace God. God transcends the Bible. God came first. God is not a book, or library of books. God is God.

Please hear me right. I love the Bible. I just roamed around in it for about an hour. I've read it almost every day of my adult life. Nonetheless, I'm careful to not worship the Bible, as I see some folks do who get too obsessed with it. We Catholics have a similar problem. Some Catholics get so engrossed in Catholic traditions, they conclude the Church is God. That's of course wrong, even according to the Church herself. But still, some people are prone to obsessions, and over-simplifying things. I knew a Fundie in the Army who actually prayed to his Bible. I thought that was a bit much. :no:

Why do people have such a great obsession with Christ? There have been numerous prophets who have carried the same message.

Everyone or Every Group of people translates the Bible to best suit them.

Now Pinochet 73 forgive me if I'm a little confused here. In post 46 you said one should't believe in the Bible, yet now in post 47 you say we must believe in the Bible. Not sure where your coming from on that.

In 2 Timothy 2:15 it tells us to Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the WORD of truth.

Now I have to tell you, I have never prayed to my Bible, and when I do pray it's to Christ only. Yet the Bible is the main Book that God inspired to bring the message of salvation to this world. And I do believe if men spent more time in it, they would understand why the Jews are back in Israel at this time.They would also understand that God is not dead, but is alive, and is getting ready to show His hand once again.

Is there any logic to worshipping christ? I mean to be redeemed, what logical connection does believing a man existed have with redemption?

Without the historical fact of Jesus' existence, and the nature of His teachings, how would you know about 'redemption', much less whether or not it actually exists?

"Confessing your sins, living correctly, I can see the logic in these teachings, and their connection to redemption, but worshipping Christ?'

To whom would you 'confess', if not to Christ? If you say 'God', then which god -- the Jewish, Islamic, or pagan variety?

"Not so much. Unless I am mistaken he also said that the most important of his teachings was to do to others as you would have do to you, coming second only to love thy God with all your heart, soul, and spirit. If the only way to salvation is believing in him why didn't he include it here?

You mean tho other prophets also said we are to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved? Because that was the message Jesus brought.

Your basic flaw is looking at him as a philosopher or prophet rather than the miracle working Son of God that Christians believe him to be.

Yes, all that is important, but none of them require worship. That is my point, worshipping christ is not something related to anything except perhaps an ego.