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Cultural Decline in the West

 
 
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sat 22 Dec, 2007 10:46 pm
@g-man,
g-man;49305 wrote:
1. "Wrong", is your response? That's it? Correct me.
2. You have made derogatory remarks concerning capitalism. If you are not a proponent of capitalism, your only other options are socialism or anarchy.
Clarify your choice.
You mention education on the subject of racism.
What qualifies any one to make the rules concerning ideals on race relations?
People will make their own decisions about how they feel about other races. To attempt to "educate" others on a subject that people decide based on events that occur between themselves and other races is nothing less than brainwashing.
Affirmative action is reverse discrimination.
3. I'll answer your question in due time. Will you present me with the positives?


I'll have you know, just because someone criticizes capitalism doesn't make them a communist or an anarchist in the same way an Art critic doesn't hate art!
Emiliana
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 07:53 am
@g-man,
g-man;49305 wrote:
1. "Wrong", is your response? That's it? Correct me.
2. You have made derogatory remarks concerning capitalism. If you are not a proponent of capitalism, your only other options are socialism or anarchy.
Clarify your choice.
You mention education on the subject of racism.
What qualifies any one to make the rules concerning ideals on race relations?
People will make their own decisions about how they feel about other races. To attempt to "educate" others on a subject that people decide based on events that occur between themselves and other races is nothing less than brainwashing.
Affirmative action is reverse discrimination.
3. I'll answer your question in due time. Will you present me with the positives?


1. Hip hip did not start in the 90's, it started in the 70's.
2. I clearly said that each had its advantages and disadvantages.
3. Hey, I don't like hip hop myself. I wanted to know what your reasons were.

None of your arguments are very solid coming from someone who posted a racist slur (gook, I believe) in another thread. :dunno:
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g-man
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 11:01 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;49308 wrote:
I'll have you know, just because someone criticizes capitalism doesn't make them a communist or an anarchist in the same way an Art critic doesn't hate art!


g-man;49305 wrote:

You have made derogatory remarks concerning capitalism. If you are not a proponent of capitalism, your only other options are socialism or anarchy.
Clarify your choice.


This was not an accusation. It was a request for clarification of what you consider an appropriate governing body or a preference for anarchy.
Criticizm is the easy part of debate. Advancement comes when one presents options and why the options presented are the best choice.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 04:30 pm
@g-man,
g-man;49336 wrote:
This was not an accusation. It was a request for clarification of what you consider an appropriate governing body or a preference for anarchy.
Criticizm is the easy part of debate. Advancement comes when one presents options and why the options presented are the best choice.


You seem to be missing the point entirely, when an Art Critic or a Movie critic, criticizes a piece his attempt is not to seek another painting or another movie he is wants is improvement of the current piece...

if I criticize capitalism i simply want them to fix what is wrong with the current system, i do not desire another system.
g-man
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 04:36 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;49357 wrote:
You seem to be missing the point entirely, when an Art Critic or a Movie critic, criticizes a piece his attempt is not to seek another painting or another movie he is wants is improvement of the current piece...

if I criticize capitalism i simply want them to fix what is wrong with the current system, i do not desire another system.


I can be a little thick headed. Thank you for your patience.
I'll likely test it occasionally. lol
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 23 Dec, 2007 04:47 pm
@g-man,
g-man;49365 wrote:
I can be a little thick headed. Thank you for your patience.
I'll likely test it occasionally. lol


I thank you for being man-enough to admit it!

That is a rarity these days!
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2008 09:45 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;49308 wrote:
I'll have you know, just because someone criticizes capitalism doesn't make them a communist or an anarchist in the same way an Art critic doesn't hate art!


FF, you've never said anything in favor of the country in which you live. Never. Therefore, you're anti-American and an internal enemy, IMO. Pinochet would have you arrested immediately and housed in a soccer stadium. Do you like soccer? It might help.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2008 09:47 am
@g-man,
g-man;49365 wrote:
I can be a little thick headed. Thank you for your patience.
I'll likely test it occasionally. lol


What? You're none of those things. Don't boost the enemy's morale. :wtf:
g-man
 
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Reply Tue 1 Jan, 2008 09:56 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;49730 wrote:
What? You're none of those things. Don't boost the enemy's morale. :wtf:

President Reagan sought detente' on occasion.
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 21 Jan, 2008 04:54 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;49729 wrote:
FF, you've never said anything in favor of the country in which you live. Never. Therefore, you're anti-American and an internal enemy, IMO. Pinochet would have you arrested immediately and housed in a soccer stadium. Do you like soccer? It might help.


isn't pride a sin in your book?
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jan, 2008 07:29 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;51020 wrote:
isn't pride a sin in your book?


I think anyone who benefits from the freedom and prosperity this land offers and hates it at the same time, is an opportunist and threat. I truly believe that you if you don't love America, you should leave. Please take your liberalism to Mexico, FF, where you can be happy helping millions and gripe about the United States, full time, to sympathetic crowds.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Tue 22 Jan, 2008 07:43 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;51144 wrote:
I think anyone who benefits from the freedom and prosperity this land offers and hates it at the same time, is an opportunist and threat. I truly believe that you if you don't love America, you should leave. Please take your liberalism to Mexico, FF, where you can be happy helping millions and gripe about the United States, full time, to sympathetic crowds.


typical of conservatives to ask somebody, who doesn't conform to their beliefs, to leave.

and for the record i don't hate America, I hate the direction it is going!
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 11:16 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;51154 wrote:
...and for the record i don't hate America, I hate the direction it is going!


I could not agree more. We are becoming far too liberal and pandering for my taste.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 12:00 pm
@socalgolfguy,
socalgolfguy;51207 wrote:
I could not agree more. We are becoming far too liberal and pandering for my taste.


being too liberal is just as bad as being too conservative. Since america is made up about equally of both liberals and conservatives the only way for the government to accurately fullfill the will of the people is too have some of both or to be somewhere in the middle of conservative and liberal ideology.
socalgolfguy
 
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Reply Wed 23 Jan, 2008 12:29 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;51210 wrote:
being too liberal is just as bad as being too conservative. Since america is made up about equally of both liberals and conservatives the only way for the government to accurately fullfill the will of the people is too have some of both or to be somewhere in the middle of conservative and liberal ideology.


Well said, young man. The trick is to learn how and when to compromise. The successful politicians have taken it to an art form. Without balance in our political system we are doomed to failure.

All the pandering done by both sides to the weak and those "without a voice" is a complete sham. They are only tools for the ambitious to move forward.

You do not have to be a political scientist to know that all the pork is cooked up in the back room in secret hand shake deals. Beliefs have no relevance in politics - only victory, at any cost.
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