Abortion

@cranston36 cv,

haha...you make arguments out of the most off-based subjects

foreign trade dependence or abortion?

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@cranston36 cv,

I think we know which one he chose's

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@cranston36 cv,

Foreign trade and the economy cannot be ruled out as contributing factors, but we must first instill within today's young women a sense of responsibility for their bodies and their reproductive systems. I would be willing to bet that more abortions have been due to a lack of self-control and thoughtfulness rather than a lack of financial foresight and importune timing of biological clocks.

We should teach abstinence to the families which believe in it, but we should also teach those same children that if the time does ever strike them and they want to have sex (which they will), they should be aware of the consequences and risks involved with unprotected sex. Parents should be more responsible for their children, and teenagers should be more responsible for what happens with their bodies.

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@cranston36 cv,

you're confusing yourself,

Image T-Shirts shout out who the person is, it symbolizes his traits and she wants to catch other people's attention... She got hers apparently from you.
So the connection of foreign trade dependence issue is still an offset if you want to make it a topic because she could've made it herself, lol that would be a plus for the economy ^^ And abortion hasnt gone down, lol where did you find that? Its a 2 out of 20 chance that a mother will accept and raise the baby in her womb.

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@cranston36 cv,

Abortion Statistics - State and World.

Abortion Statistics - United States.

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@cranston36 cv,

abortshun isa moider make no bones bout it and dem dat hasa dabblied in it shal git dem selves a resolves on e day:headbang:

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@cranston36 cv,

Yeah what he said.

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@cranston36 cv,

moider isa wha mi saide :headbang:

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@cranston36 cv,

You must spend alot of time texting? Welcome to CV.

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@cranston36 cv,

I find that difficult to decipher .

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@cranston36 cv,

Here's one of my thoughts on abortion:

-If a person is willing to get an abortion, chances are that there's a good reason for it. Example: If a woman is raped and is impregnated by the raper, there's a chance that the woman will want an abortion. If the woman is disallowed an abortion than either a- she will do what she can to have a miscarriage anyways or just be neglectful, or b-she will have the child, which will probaly always serve as a reminder of the rape and will decrease the chances of her getting over the almost definite trauma of the incident, and, she will likely have, either consciously or sub-consciously, a type of disdain for the child, hindering the raising of the child in a positive manner.

On a much more cynical note, there's already quite the over-population problem as it is. Why force people to have unwanted children when it will just contribute to numerous social issues, including the aforementioned one as well as children being brought up in negative environments?

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@cranston36 cv,

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If a person is willing to get an abortion, chances are that there's a good reason for it. Example: If a woman is raped and is impregnated by the raper, there's a chance that the woman will want an abortion.

If whe was raped she should go to the cops. No one will judge her if she decides not to keep it.

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If the woman is disallowed an abortion than either a- she will do what she can to have a miscarriage anyways or just be neglectful, or b-she will have the child, which will probaly always serve as a reminder of the rape and will decrease the chances of her getting over the almost definite trauma of the incident, and, she will likely have, either consciously or sub-consciously, a type of disdain for the child, hindering the raising of the child in a positive manner.

What percentage of this type of scenarios do you think there is. There are women out there who had the choice of abortion and still had the kid and are still messed up.

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On a much more cynical note, there's already quite the over-population problem as it is. Why force people to have unwanted children when it will just contribute to numerous social issues, including the aforementioned one as well as children being brought up in negative environments?

By the sound of it somebody must be forcing them to have sex, forcing her to fall over with her legs open, forcing him to fall right in with a hard one, forcing them not to use pretection. Don't you think they were forcing the issue bypassing all the chances they had to prevent it? If you give them a little credit and the mind to think about what they are doing and the do the opposite it is no others fault but there own. They thought little of the reprocussions untill they forced themselves to deal with it. Taking someone's life who cannot defend themselves is wrong IMO.

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@cranston36 cv,

I do believe in personal responsibility. However, accidents can and do happen. What if a certain couple were using not only condoms, but other forms of birth control as well and still ended up with a pregnancy.
They obviously didn't want a pregnancy, and took measures to avoid it. Would you still blame them for the pregnancy even though it was chance and/or bad luck that had caused it? Not trying to sound defensive here, sorry if that's how it comes across.
Anyways, the example was purely hypothetical, and was ony one possibility out of at least hundreds. And also, you're saying that in the case of rape an abortion is ok, right?

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@cranston36 cv,

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Would you still blame them for the pregnancy even though it was chance and/or bad luck that had caused it?

No i wouldn't. But it is not up to me what they do after. A couple that took the time to take such precautions is well more equipt to make a futher decision with an new life as well as there own.

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Not trying to sound defensive here, sorry if that's how it comes across.

No problemo, not taken that way at all.

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Anyways, the example was purely hypothetical, and was ony one possibility out of at least hundreds. And also, you're saying that in the case of rape an abortion is ok, right?

I would leave it up to the decision of the couple. If the case was rape then the women has most to bare. The decision should be hers. So to answer, yes.

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@cranston36 cv,

Sounds like we an pretty much agree on this issue then.

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@cranston36 cv,

I believe in Pro-Choice and think every woman should decide for herself based on her own moral and religious beliefs (or lack thereof). I don't think the government should fund abortions because not all taxpayers support abortion rights.

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@cranston36 cv,

Welcome Doly. It is a choice but not just for the women. There are two partys to the delema. Why is it the women's sole decision up till birth, but as soon as it is born all of the sudden the man is financially responcible? I understand it took both to make it but up untill that point it was not both that decided.
Why is it ok for a women to murder her child if it is in her womb but not if it already of this earth. I just find it strange for this question, the responcible couple are by know means equal. Before birth the mothers is unequal to the mans decision, after birth the man is unequal in financial responcibility?

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@cranston36 cv,

During my hay day, there were plenty of men who didn't want to take responsibility for the child and the pregnant mother. That was before DNA tests. With DNA it has become very hard for a man to deny parentage.

If a woman becomes pregnant and she is lucky enough to have a man who wants to help care for her during the pregnancy and the child afterward then I think he should have just as many rights as the mother as to whether the fetus is aborted or not. But let's turn the table and say the father wants the mother to abort the fetus and she doesn't want to, then what happens?

No matter the topic, there will always be dilemmas attached to it as long as it involves humans.

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@Doly,

Doly;9665 wrote:

During my hay day, there were plenty of men who didn't want to take responsibility for the child and the pregnant mother. That was before DNA tests. With DNA it has become very hard for a man to deny parentage.

If a woman becomes pregnant and she is lucky enough to have a man who wants to help care for her during the pregnancy and the child afterward then I think he should have just as many rights as the mother as to whether the fetus is aborted or not. But let's turn the table and say the father wants the mother to abort the fetus and she doesn't want to, then what happens?

No matter the topic, there will always be dilemmas attached to it as long as it involves humans.

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During my hay day, there were plenty of men who didn't want to take responsibility for the child and the pregnant mother.

In your day what do you think the percentage was? I would be inclinded to believe there were far more willing to take that responcibility then not. I think that still holds true today.

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That was before DNA tests. With DNA it has become very hard for a man to deny parentage.

On that same thought it is also just as hard to prove the man to be the one responcible. As per the charactor of the female. You cannot assume that the horror stories you hear in the MSM is the status quo. They are far from it.

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If a woman becomes pregnant and she is lucky enough to have a man who wants to help care for her during the pregnancy and the child afterward then I think he should have just as many rights as the mother as to whether the fetus is aborted or not.

Lucky? Most guys i know have done what is right by social standards. Not that is stays that way but it is a two way street.
In any case, why is it predominant on your standard of how a male should act responcible as to when and if he should be granted "as many rights as the mother?" Are they not equal?

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But let's turn the table and say the father wants the mother to abort the fetus and she doesn't want to, then what happens?

Is that not within his right? If they are equal? Why can she decide to abort and not he?
I've said before, the ultimate decision is up to the women. She is who will bare most of the burden. But if things are taken into mutual consideration as it has been proven through time. Alot of children are born. Most womem chose to bare children. Regardless of circumstance. A small minority chose otherwise.

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No matter the topic, there will always be dilemmas attached to it as long as it involves humans.

Agreed.

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