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A HUGE AMOUNT OF LITIGATION TO BE FORTHCOMING . . .

 
 
Reply Mon 28 Jun, 2010 09:53 pm

A HUGE AMOUNT OF LITIGATION IS TO BE FORTHCOMING . . .
nationwide, in furtherance of the newly protected right to keep and bear arms,
McDONALD, 2nd AMENDMENT FOUNDATION, v. CHICAGO
delineating it, from many perspectives in many of its aspects,
e.g., carrying concealed for security, or for protection from the weather.





Comments n questions r invited





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 07:54 am

UNITED STATES CODE TITLE 18
CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE PART I

CRIMES CHAPTER 13 - CIVIL RIGHTS

§§ 241. Conspiracy against rights
If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten,
or intimidate any inhabitant of any State, . . .
in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right
or privilege secured to him by
the Constitution or laws of the United States,
. . .
They shall be fined not more than $10,000
or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;
and if death results, they shall be subject to imprisonment
for any term of years or for life.

§§ 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law
Whoever, under color of any law, statute,
ordinance, regulation, or custom,
willfully subjects any inhabitant of any State,
Territory, or District to the deprivation of any rights,
privileges, or immunities secured or protected
by the Constitution or laws of the United States, . . .
shall be fined not more than $1,000
or imprisoned not more than one year, or both;
and if bodily injury results shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;
and if death results shall be subject to imprisonment for any term of years or for life.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 07:57 am
maybe all the gun owners could shoot all the non gun owners (you'd be saving them from becoming victims of crime)

then you could battle it out with the criminals

it would make a great TV show
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 07:58 am
@djjd62,
djjd62 wrote:
maybe all the gun owners could shoot all the non gun owners
(you'd be saving them from becoming victims of crime)

then you could battle it out with the criminals

it would make a great TV show
BETTER to $ue them.
djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 07:59 am
@OmSigDAVID,
but not nearly as entertaining
electronicmail
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 09:28 am
@djjd62,
The overseas coverage is hilarious, here's a sample. Article with title "Guns 'n Robes"
http://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/images/blogs/2010w26/GunScotus.jpg
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/06/gun_control_and_supreme_court?source=hptextfeature
electronicmail
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 09:49 am
@electronicmail,
cont'd

so's some of the domestic coverage, with this guy raising a new concern about the incorporation of the 2nd Amendment: imho a very real concern http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/28/what-bolstering-gun-rights-will-mean/
Quote:
It may wind up being protected fairly well — as, say, First Amendment speech rights generally are — or poorly, as Fourth Amendment rights against search and seizure often are, but it is now a full-fledged part of the Bill of Rights, not a neglected stepchild that has been interpreted out of existence.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/06/24/opinion/24rfd-image/24rfd-image-custom3.jpg
electronicmail
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jun, 2010 06:28 pm
@djjd62,
Don't you love the British headline, "Guns 'n Robes"? I'd like to add it as a forum tag but I worry it would be mistaken for graffiti.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jun, 2010 05:19 am
@electronicmail,
electronicmail wrote:
Don't you love the British headline, "Guns 'n Robes"?
I'd like to add it as a forum tag but I worry it would be mistaken for graffiti.
I love it. That 's a nice picture (tho not enuf guns in it).





David
electronicmail
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jun, 2010 07:33 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Imho "Guns 'n Robes" is more descriptive than the boring combination of "guns" and "legal" tagging the thread here. But I refrained from adding it as it's probably graffiti. Sadly.
electronicmail
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jun, 2010 07:52 am
@electronicmail,
This is a quote from James Alan Fox, one of the law professors joining in the amicus brief
http://www.abanet.org/publiced/preview/briefs/pdfs/09-10/08-1521_RespondentAmCuCrimJusticeProfs.pdf filed in support of Chicago and is inadvertently humorous (on the NYT link)
Quote:
Since 2000, even while homicide rates have declined, gun killings have increased, especially in urban areas;

Well yes that's true! And these are the same urban areas which have been imposing gun restrictions, so how did the amici conclude that this statistic was ever an argument FOR Chicago? Huh? Drunk Drunk Laughing
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 03:51 am
@electronicmail,
electronicmail wrote:
Imho "Guns 'n Robes" is more descriptive than the boring combination of "guns" and "legal" tagging the thread here. But I refrained from adding it as it's probably graffiti. Sadly.
or guns UNDER robes





David
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 07:28 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Gun ownership, with a permit to carry same, demonstrates independence and a willingness
to fight to defend one's self and family. This is not something that liberals are likely to admire.

TAKING UP ARMS
djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 07:40 am
@H2O MAN,
i have been fortunate to not have to feel i needed a weapon to fight for or defend anyone, as for guns, i admit, i don't get handguns, i've fired them, i guess they're fun, like most diversions i got bored pretty quickly, i have no problem with long guns, most of my neighbours (in canada) own them and hunt regularly

the fight in the states is a moot point, you can't put the genie back in the bottle, the guns are out there, i'm glad that canada has strict policy on handguns, it's not stopped guns from getting on the streets and it hasn't stopped gun violence, but i've never felt threatened or in danger when out on the streets of a large city
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 07:54 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Gun ownership, with a permit to carry same, demonstrates independence and a willingness
to fight to defend one's self and family. This is not something that liberals are likely to admire.

TAKING UP ARMS
I can accept licensure of the right to bear defensive guns
on an interim, transitory, ephemeral basis,
as we move toward restoring the status quo ante
as of the early 20th Century, when buying guns
was as freely accomplished as buying newspapers or books.

Gun control (licensure) means DISCRIMINATION by government,
but NOT just for a few minutes of preferred seating on a bus.
It means DISCRIMINATION as to your right to defend your life from predatory violence.


The Constitution requires "equal protection of the laws".
Gun control (licensure of the right to defend your life) is incompatible with equality
and can only exist -- legitimately -- if "equal protection of the laws" is repealed.





David
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 09:50 am
@OmSigDAVID,
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." Dalai Lama
dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 10:12 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
I could draw a gun, softly
Salvador Dali.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jan, 2011 11:00 am
@dyslexia,
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XCkTSf0swcQ/R5n9Idf3DJI/AAAAAAAABOo/QG7BE4nSL5Q/s320/gunshow6139713aa.jpg
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