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Do You Think Animals Dream?

 
 
Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 07:00 am
Hi All,
My dogs dream. Do any of the animals you have shared time with or amongst show signs of dreaming?

Occassionally, my younger dog starts wagging his tail whilst asleep, typically when he's had a rather adventurous day out. My eldest appears to have the odd nightmare, especially when he encounters traffic, or strangers a bit close to his territory.

Do any of your observations lead you to believe so, or not so?

Have a fantastic day everyone.
Mark...
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Jackofalltrades phil
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 07:04 am
I think they dream too. But its a difficult question to answer in an affirmative.

Among the animal world, all mammals possibly dreams, but the hibernating bear of the tundras and arctic may be the best dreamers. What a fascinating subject.
Transcend
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 07:29 am
Hi Mark, I hope you're having a fantastic week off.

My dog dreams, too. She does the equivalent to when we talk in our sleep: making weeping sounds, even barking herself awake from time-to-time. She also wags her tail, and growls.

I don't know about other animals really, but I would assume that they do. The fact that animals do have a conscious surely means that they would dream. I'm only a mere layman and would gladly hear evidence of otherwise.

Have a good'n, my friend. Smile

Mike
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:00 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:

Hi All,
My dogs dream. Do any of the animals you have shared time with or amongst show signs of dreaming?

Occassionally, my younger dog starts wagging his tail whilst asleep, typically when he's had a rather adventurous day out. My eldest appears to have the odd nightmare, especially when he encounters traffic, or strangers a bit close to his territory.

Do any of your observations lead you to believe so, or not so?

Have a fantastic day everyone.
Mark...


Cats hunt in their dreams....they make that funny clicking their jaws together sound they make when they see prey, and their paws move.
dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:02 am
what leads you to believe these physical manifestations are actually dreams?
could they not be just physiological responses to brain activity? like if i roll over or move my legs?
do you have any evidence that dogs/mammels see "pictures" in their brains?
Is there some ekg or brain reading monitor test for dream?

Its a nice fantasy that make us feel close to our pets I guess.
dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:12 am
@dadpad,
Could be true...but given that the manifestations are exactly as they are in humans, there is no good reason to think they are NOT dreams.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:13 am
@mark noble,
mark noble wrote:
Hi All,
My dogs dream. Do any of the animals you have shared time with or amongst show signs of dreaming?

Occassionally, my younger dog starts wagging his tail whilst asleep, typically when he's had a rather adventurous day out. My eldest appears to have the odd nightmare, especially when he encounters traffic, or strangers a bit close to his territory.

Do any of your observations lead you to believe so, or not so?

Have a fantastic day everyone.
Mark...
There is no question about it.
In that respect, thay r conspiculously like humans (shoud that be humen?)
Thay have rapid eye movement, thay talk in their sleep,
thay try to run; thay just don 't go as far and remain horizontal.

I am CONVINCED that thay r telepathic too, from their frequent
and consistent reactions to my silent decisions.





David
mark noble
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:22 am
@Transcend,
Hi, My good friend!

I am indeed, Thank you! I hope you are having a fantastic Everything, by the way.

I have no doubt about it! I can't understand why humans think they share no qualities with other animals, it's what each of us is, after all - An ANIMAL.

Great hearing (reading) from you Mike.
Have an utterly amazing day, my friend!!!
Mark...
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mark noble
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:24 am
@dlowan,
Hi Dlowan,
Thank you for that! I'll add it to the list. "Dogs" and "cats".
Kind regards.
Mark...
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djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:27 am
@mark noble,
one of my favourite stand alone stories from the Sandman comic book series is this one

http://prettythings.pullbot.com/artworks/156828/Sandman18-00_A_Dream_of_A_Thousand_Cats_medium.jpg

A Dream of a Thousand Cats

This tale begins with a small, white cat being called by another cat to sneak away from her house one night. They speak of an event in a graveyard that they don't want to miss. When they arrive, they see that many cats are already there. A Siamese cat comes to tell her story.

A long time ago, the Siamese cat relates, she met a Tom-cat, who became her lover. Eventually, she gave birth to several kittens. Her human owners were not pleased, and the male owner put the kittens in a bag bound to a rock, and threw them into pond. Traumatized by the callous murder of her kittens, the Siamese becomes disillusioned in human beings and ultimately rejects the life of a pampered pet. Her cause is strengthened when she has a dream that she has entered a boneyard in the Dreaming. In the dream a raven with no skin on its head informs her where she can find out exactly why the humans killed her offspring: a cave inhabited by the Dream Lord. At the entrance to the cave that the raven told her of, many fearsome animals tell her to leave. She responds by saying that she will only state her business to Dream. Inside, she finds Dream in the form of a cat.

Dream presents her with a vision of an alternate reality where cats are huge and humans are merely their playthings, tiny servants which groom their bodies and which the cats can kill at their pleasure. A man ruined that world by informing the humans that their dreams will shape the world. Enough humans listened to make the vision a reality. Upon waking, the cat undertakes a spiritual quest for justice. She preaches her vision to motley assortments of housecats around the world, hoping that if she can make enough believe in and dream of this reality, the world will change to conform to their dreams.
The cat from the beginning of the story heads home. Her friends were slightly disappointed, though they admitted that what they heard was interesting. The white cat, however, was fully taken by the tale. She returns home and heads to sleep. Over breakfast, her owners remark on what a cute stance she's in: it looks as if she's hunting something, or someone.

Although seemingly a complete diversion from the basic story of the Sandman, it in fact illustrates one of the core themes of the series: the idea that reality is shaped in the most literal sense by the dreams, beliefs, and expectations of humans (and, in this case, of other animals as well). The story also serves as a reminder that dreams are truly universal.
mark noble
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:30 am
@Jackofalltrades phil,
Hi Jack,
Thanks for bringing bears into the equation! Any experience of/with?

Oh to sleep as a bear doth sleep
To dream a season so
In ignorance of innocence
To greet the spring aglow.

Kind regards.
Mark...
mark noble
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:32 am
@dadpad,
Hi dadpad,
What evidence is there against?
Kind regards.
Mark...
mark noble
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:33 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Hi David,

As am I.

Thank you for your valuable contribution.

Kind regards.
Mark...
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mark noble
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:38 am
@djjd62,
Hi Djj,
Beautiful story!!! Thank you.

Have a brilliant day, Djj.
Mark...
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JustBrooke
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:19 pm
My dogs dream. If it seems like they are having a bad dream, I gently wake them.

My dogs don't quite dream to this extent though ... at least not that I see.



mark noble
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jun, 2010 08:26 pm
@JustBrooke,
Hi Brooklyn!

Brilliant! Now that's what I call dreaming!

Hope he was ok though???

xxx
Mark...
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jun, 2010 07:07 am
@JustBrooke,
JustBrooke wrote:
My dogs dream. If it seems like they are having a bad dream, I gently wake them.

My dogs don't quite dream to this extent though ... at least not that I see.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2BgjH_CtIA&feature=channel[/youtube]


He was having a NIGHTMARE!





David
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jun, 2010 07:18 am
Aw, poor fella.
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squinney
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jun, 2010 07:20 am
Forgot to say... Of course we dream. You humans tend to think you're so special. Rolling Eyes

I once dreamed I was chasing wabbit. She set me straight.
dadpad
 
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Reply Fri 25 Jun, 2010 07:34 am
@mark noble,
I was interested enough to chase this up.

While any pet owner knows that animals seem to dream, and studies show that animals' brains follow the same series of sleeping states as ours do, this is the first time that researchers know what animals are dreaming about.

http://www.wisegeek.com/do-animals-dream.htm
 

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