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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2011 04:24 am
@msolga,
For Rupert

msolga
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2011 05:01 am
@hingehead,
Good song, with a significant, timely message! Smile
Too bad it's now firmly lodged in my brain, though. Wink
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 22 May, 2011 08:26 pm
http://images.theage.com.au/2011/05/23/2378894/Moir23cod-620x0.jpg
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 02:30 am
@msolga,
Popeye works don't it? - but was Joe Hockey meant to be?
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 02:40 am
@hingehead,
Quote:
Popeye works don't it?

It does! Ha! (with spinach supplied by Rupert! )
Quote:
- but was Joe Hockey meant to be?

I don't know exactly what Hockey was meant to be (or if he was actually meant to be at all), hinge, apart from as Little Sir Echo! Wink

But it seems all is not exactly well in their song & dance routine.
Did you read my earlier post about their recent "troubles"?
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 07:37 pm
Quote:
Coalition divisions emerge over climate report

Updated 1 hour 26 minutes ago

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200907/r405360_1909883.jpg
The Climate Commission says evidence for climate change has never been stronger. (Library of Congress)

Divisions within the Federal Coalition over climate change have been on show after the Climate Commission released its first report yesterday.


The commission, whose report says the evidence that the planet is warming is now even stronger, will host a forum for politicians in Canberra today to discuss the findings.

Opposition environment spokesman Greg Hunt says there is bipartisan support for the science in the report.

But in a Senate estimates hearing, Liberal Senator Eric Abetz questioned the credibility of the commission and its chairman, Professor Tim Flannery....<cont>

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/24/3224887.htm

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/05/24/2381339/tandbergcod-620x0.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 07:46 pm
But let's not let the piffling issue of climate change distract us from the really big story of the day!
What exactly is this man saying? Wink :


Quote:

You and whose army?

11:35AM Tuesday May 24, 2011

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/05/24/2381155/Katter169-408x264.jpg

EVEN by Bob Katter's Olympian standards in the art of calling a press conference to announce nothing at all, it was a triple gold-medal effort.

''I'm not saying yes, I'm not saying no, I'm not saying anything,'' he declared, before continuing to say it in a stream of consciousness that would leave Joh Bjelke-Petersen, Pauline Hanson and possibly James Joyce gasping in admiration.

What he was saying, or not, was that he would set up a new independent political party or movement, or not, and that whatever it was, he'd be calling another press conference in a few days, or perhaps a few weeks, or maybe a few months, to announce it. ...<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/national/you-and-whose-army-20110523-1f0rs.html
dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 07:53 pm
@msolga,
If we get all the nuts in one party, could we take 'em all out at once at a party conference?
dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 07:54 pm
@msolga,
Also....I read in the NYT that the anti-carbon tax people have brought in an Australian man who worked for the tea-baggers....it was noting concerns about the decline of political debate in Australia....that it was becoming like the worst of the US stuff, and attributing some of it ti teabag methods.


I am sick.



msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 07:55 pm
@dlowan,
Oh but it would be much, much more exciting to see this fascinating new party in action, Deb!
You wouldn't want to miss that, would you? Razz
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 07:56 pm
@dlowan,
Quote:
Also....I read in the NYT that the anti-carbon tax people have brought in an Australian man who worked for the tea-baggers....it was noting concerns about the decline of political debate in Australia....that it was becoming like the worst of the US stuff, and attributing some of it ti teabag methods.


I am sick.

I wish you hadn't posted that, Deb.
Now I'm feeling kinda sick, too! Neutral
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hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 09:20 pm
@msolga,
I fully support Bob's new party, as long as it's held in another country and I don't have to go.

He was Triple Jay's hack last week. Totally embarrasing - he is Queensland's drunk uncle.

Quote:
This amorphous entity would seek to give a voice to Australians who wanted to manufacture things from the nation's ore rather than drive mining dump trucks, to farmers who were losing their farms and to small shopkeepers crushed by big supermarkets.



Well that's all very laudable, but the reason all those things happen is because Australian's buy the cheapest available without concerning themselves about social consequences. Otherwise why do we squeal about a carbon tax before it exists, even with compensation assurances? Ludicrously simple-minded. Can't wait to see the public running out to buy Australian made flat screen TVs for $10,000.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 23 May, 2011 11:27 pm
@hingehead,
I think Bob might be onto a real winner here!!!!
Bring on this new party! Laughing
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2011 06:14 pm
The Great Cate Hate
http://www.kudelka.com.au/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/OZ110530.jpg

Well non-ozzians, the story so far.

Cate Blanchett, fabulously wealthy Australian actress donated a few seconds of screen space to a pro Carbon Tax advertisement funded by several NGOs

The advertisement


The fallout

Barnaby Choice says 'she should stick to what she's good at'
Corrine Grant via twitter concurs and says Barnaby should stick to what he's good at - as the world needs more kitchen sponges.

Chas Licciardello applauds the outrage 'if she wants to influence public debate she should buy a newspaper like everyone else' 'or a television station' says GrogsGamut.

Read some more about the News Ltd papers in OZ becoming a print version of Fox News in the USA
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2011 06:38 pm
Cate Gate continues

Many people asking while Michal Caton isn't targeted - and why super rich who are anti carbon tax (or mining tax) aren't similarly castigated for being too rich to have an opinion.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2011/05/30/categate/

msolga
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2011 11:02 pm
@hingehead,
You beat me to it, hinge.
I was just about to post this ....
Oh well, I'll do it anyway.
It's worth a read.

Interesting isn't it, all this (News Ltd-led) outrage & the advertisement hasn't even been shown yet!

Barnaby Joyce hadn't seen it when he made his comments.

Can you imagine what the response will be once the Libs actually get a look at it? Wink

I have a feeling this is going to backfire on the Liberal Party & Rupert's opinion makers. I think they might have picked on the wrong girl.

Good onya Cate!


Quote:
Blanchett exposed for the 'crime' of speaking up
Tom Arup/the AGE
May 30, 2011 - 12:09PM


Comments 447

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/05/30/2394149/cate-carbon169-408x264.jpg
Opposition slams a new television ad featuring Cate Blanchett and Michael Caton advocating a carbon tax.

Who knew Cate Blanchett was so wicked? Finally, she's been exposed, and a good thing too.

If you've missed the weekend kerfuffle, we've learnt that Cate Blanchett is the wrong kind of rich — a person of means and profile prepared to stand up for causes more general than her own self-interest.

What was the woman thinking?


Blanchett's crime was lending her name to a cause she has long advocated: addressing climate change. Blanchett is appearing for free in television ads — launched last night — advocating Australia ''Say Yes'' to a carbon price.

The $1 million advertising campaign is driven by a coalition of green groups and unions, including the ACTU, WWF and Greenpeace.

Her reward for speaking on an issue she cares about? A Sunday Telegraph front page story headlined ''Carbon Cate.'' The story suggested Blanchett — worth $53 million — was too rich to speak in favour of a carbon tax that is going to push up utility bills for battlers - who will, however, receive compensation.

The justification for the story was the community outrage Blanchett had sparked for her views. Pretty incredible that outrage, particularly given it manifested itself hours before the ads even appeared.

And who exactly was outraged? The Australian Family Association and Barnaby Joyce. (Riots in the street!) Joyce said he hadn't even seen the ad when he was contacted by the Telegraph.

Wealthy Australian women entering the public policy debate seems to be in fashion.

Last year, Australia's richest person Gina Rinehart — worth $10.3 billion on last count — climbed on the back of a truck with a megaphone to campaign against the mining super profits tax.

It is not known whether Rinehart, or other mining magnates Andrew Forrest or Clive Palmer, helped fund a $22 million industry advertising campaign against the mining tax. The current disclosure laws mean we don't know.

Of course Rinehart — who inherited a mining company from her father — had a lot to lose from the tax.

Remember that's the same mining tax that was going to be used to fund a 2 per cent tax cut to all small businesses and build a mix of public and industry infrastructure.

This is how The Telegraph lead its page seven story of Rinehart's public protest at the time: Prime Minister Kevin Rudd had to dodge Australia's first ever protest rally led by billionaires as he set about spending a few billion himself buying tax support yesterday.

Oh what it may have been in the Telegraph's hands if it was prepared to apply some consistency: Australia's richest woman says hard-working mums and dads trying to keep their suburban small business afloat should pay more tax so she can pay less.

Presumably Blanchett has nothing to gain from a carbon tax. Rinehart had a lot to gain in derailing the mining tax.

The lesson in the Telegraph world?

No good deed goes unpunished.

Tom Arup is The Age and Sydney Morning Herald's environment correspondent

Quote:
Poll: Do you support Cate Blanchett's right to speak out in support of a carbon price?
Yes
80%

No
18%

Not sure
2%

Total votes: 11532.


http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/blanchett-exposed-for-the-crime-of-speaking-up-20110530-1fbdm.html#poll
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2011 11:06 pm
@msolga,
Apparently it's dominating Question time - and there's a censure motion - just not sure who it's on.
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2011 11:19 pm
@hingehead,
Interesting, interesting ....
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2011 11:30 pm
@msolga,
Quite a bit more going on in federal parliament today, by the sounds of it, hinge.:

Quote:
Greens motion condemns asylum policy
By Jeremy Thompson
Updated 57 minutes ago


http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200911/r465201_2303764.jpg
Andrew Wilkie says the asylum deal has "cast a shadow" over Australia's human rights record (AFP: Roslan Rahman)

Australia's mandatory detention system for asylum seekers has been slammed in federal Parliament as an abomination, cruel, expensive and ineffective.

A Greens motion condemning the Government over its Malaysian asylum seeker deal has been supported by Opposition members and independent Andrew Wilkie, who says it has "cast a shadow" over Australia's human rights record.


The motion calls on the Government to scrap its in-principle agreement to send 800 asylum seekers to Malaysia in return for accepting 4,000 refugees.

If passed, it will mean both houses of Parliament have taken the unusual path of condemning a government policy.

Moving the motion, Greens MP Adam Bandt described mandatory detention as a "political race to the bottom" as the major parties try to attract votes from marginal seats.

"On the one side you have the Coalition, the party of razor wire and children overboard, peddling fear and stoking resentment in the community," he said.

"On the other you have Labor, the party of mandatory detention, promising a new direction at the election, but then again giving in to fear and refusing to lead public opinion on this issue."

Mr Bandt said Malaysia has not signed the United Nations Convention on Human Rights and "has a history of caning asylum seekers".

"Why do we sign up to international conventions if we are not going to abide by them?" he asked. ....<cont>


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/30/3230706.htm
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 29 May, 2011 11:32 pm
@hingehead,
Have to watch the news tonight - apparently Albanese destroys Abbott and is hilarious...
 

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