@hingehead,
I think the rot set in well before now, hinge ... starting with Howard's "core & non-core" promises ...
And from Labor's side: the (accurate, I think) perception that the NSW Right has totally over-stepped it's hand ... Labor needs to reignite some enthusiasm for grass roots membership if it wants to survive, I think. And that won't happen until there is some genuine respect for members & also
real members' involvement party politics again.
And remember the light on the hill & all that?
History.
Sigh.
Quote:Have you seen any of the coverage of Lindsay Tanner's book about the dumbifying of politics and the media?
Yes, I have.
I think much of what he has to say is spot on.
Just goes to show what happens to half-decent politicians when confronted with the party machine these days.
Quote:I so hope that the budget does go in surplus in 12/13 and then an election is called - I want to see endless grabs of Abbott, Barnaby Choice and Joe Hockey saying 'They'll never deliver a surplus' in ALP election ads- I think it's bizarre that they would assert that so openly and repeatedly - ads to Uhlmann's thesis about Abott's high risk approach.
Call me silly, but I think all this emphasis on surplus budgets is a right wing ploy.
Abbott talks about "no big/new taxes", yet how can we pay for what is actually
needed in the community without actually paying the taxes that a required to do that?
And if that means not achieving a budget surplus in a hurry, well so what?
We are in debt to ourselves.
We will have to find our own answers to that.
Abbott could not run the country if his simplistic "economic theory" was actually put to the test.
His statements are all populist political vote-gaining wind, designed to undermine the Labor government, nothing else.
His sole agenda is bringing on a fresh election, nothing more.
Somehow the "economic debate" has to become more real, so that people actually realize that his jargon is meaningless, irresponsible, populist garbage.
But how to
do that in the current climate?
I honestly don't know.
edit: Horrible thought, but ...
Maybe what it will take for Abbott's ideas/slogans to be thoroughly debunked would be for the Libs to actually win the next election?
THAT would certainly sort out his rhetoric from the reality of running the country?
I've been closely observing the conservative/lib dem government in the UK & well ... what can you say about the deal that ordinary people are receiving from this government?
They are totally screwed.
A very hard way to learn, though, yes?