@ragnel,
Quote:Yes, I think it was a rejection of those same back-room boys who have been pulling the strings for so long, setting up puppets and then dumping them when the voters get noisy. Everyone is so sick of it.
Well, as I said, if this election result hastens their departure from control of the Labor Party, I certainly won't be complaining!
There is a certain lack of
vision which marks their endeavors. To put it politely.
And (in my honest opinion) the Labor Party is lost without clear vision.
That's why so many former Labor Party members & supporters have defected to the Greens.
Quote:I didn't really like Kristina Kenneally, but I feel sorry for her.
I know very little about Kristina Kenneally & her political affiliations & history within the Labor Party. (Not being from NSW) she seemed to come from nowhere as the latest new leader. You would know a whole lot more about all this than I do.
However, I don't envy
anyone being given the opportunity to lead a party & government in an election under such circumstances. The NSW Labor government had been well & truly on the nose with the electorate for years before she became leader.
(What is this Labor thing about giving women a chance when it's too late to influence the electorate? I saw much the same thing happen to Joan Kirner in Victoria. A capable politician (who happened to be a woman) who was finally given her chance when it was way too late. The Labor government had already done its dash with the electorate. She was in an impossible situation. Why wasn't she given the opportunity to lead in better political times?
... Having said that, I can't think of a single Liberal woman politician who has even gotten this far. )
Quote:I think I made an observation when Julia Gillard became PM that I feared she was made leader purely as a 'face' for these people, and that her being a woman made it easier for them to say she couldn't handle the job if things went wrong. Regular contributors to this thread all seemed to think I was overdoing the 'female' bit.
My own view is that it had more with her being seen as a "puppet" of the Right faction (in the Rudd demotion) than her being a woman.
Her history up until that point had been pretty impressive in the Labor government. Kevin Rudd was so often absent (on o/seas government business) that she was virtually running the country in his absence. Very competently. She'd shown she was perfectly capable of being a good PM.
It was the association with the ALP right (& the resultant incredibly pragmatic & dispiriting election campaign which followed) which undermined her credibility with many ALP voters. Especially the left of the party. The ALP appeared to stand for not much at all apart from winning office again.
I really wish she hadn't accepted that poisoned chalice, because I think she undermined her own political credibility as a result of having done so.
Her time for leadership would have come anyway, automtically, I'm certain.