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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2010 05:30 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
Bloody Bob - Always so freaking reasonable, thoughtful and measured. What the hell is he doing in politics?


Good question. Wink
And yes, he is.

I have lost a lot of respect for Julia over her grovelling performance (to the US) regarding Assange. And some attorney-general, huh? Neutral

Interesting that neither of them was interested in being interviewed by Jon Faine.
hingehead
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2010 06:36 pm
@msolga,
Did you see David Maher's observation in the Insiders wrap-up?

It's about 35 seconds in http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2010/s3084965.htm

Mrs Hinge teared up.
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 6 Dec, 2010 07:19 pm
@hingehead,
No, I didn't see it, hinge.

Quote:
Mrs Hinge teared up.

Just did the same to me. Sad
Terrible.
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 9 Dec, 2010 10:20 pm
Laurie Oaks .. on "political pymies"

Let's hope they lift their game in 2011. That would be good!

(Sorry to include the photograph of Laurie. Wink )


Quote:

Oakes labels Gillard and Abbott 'political pygmies'
December 10, 2010 - 7:54AM
http://images.theage.com.au/2010/12/10/2088766/laureioakes1-420x0.jpg
Laurie Oakes ... won a Walkley for his coverage of the 2010 federal election.

Veteran television political reporter Laurie Oakes has branded Prime Minister Julia Gillard's stance on WikiLeaks "ridiculous" as he accepted the highest honour in journalism, a Gold Walkley award.

The Nine Network Canberra press gallery journalist took the award for the most outstanding piece of journalism for his coverage of the Labor leaks during the federal election campaign.

He also won the Walkley for television reporting.

http://images.theage.com.au/2010/12/10/2088767/jg18-200x0.jpg
Prime Minister Julia Gillard Photo: Getty Images

"The leaks that made this story possible didn't dominate the campaign, but they played a very big role in the campaign. I don't think they should've," he said at the awards ceremony in Melbourne last night.

"[But] there was nothing else, there were no issues, there was no policy inspiration, there were no ideas.


"We had two parties led by two political pygmies."

Oakes criticised Ms Gillard and Attorney-General Robert McClelland for their comments about WikiLeaks' release of US diplomatic cables.

"What they said was ridiculous," he said.

"To brand what the WikiLeaks site has done as illegal when there's no evidence of any breach of the law, I think is demeaning ... I think as journalists we should make that our view."


Kerry O'Brien, who presented his final The 7.30 Report program after 15 years last night, won the Walkley for journalistic leadership.

The veteran current affairs presenter also won the Walkley for best interview for his exchanges with Kevin Rudd and Tony Abbott.

"I'm stunned. I did not expect this," O'Brien told the audience.

"Tonight was my last show for 7.30, as you know, and I was determined to play a straight bat and I managed to, and now you've got me, you bastards. ...<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/national/oakes-labels-gillard-and-abbott-political-pygmies-20101210-18row.html
hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 12:43 am
@msolga,
Compared to Laurie we are all pygmies.

Still the thought we heave had a policy free year is pretty well across the board in your thinking journalists. In that last bit from Insiders I posted both David Maher's co-chairs expressed the same hope as you.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 02:03 am
@hingehead,
Quote:
Compared to Laurie we are all pygmies.

You mean that, hinge?
I mean, do you seriously mean that?
God, I can't tell anymore, I'm absolutely flummoxed by it all. .... Neutral

Quote:
Still the thought we heave had a policy free year is pretty well across the board in your thinking journalists. In that last bit from Insiders I posted both David Maher's co-chairs expressed the same hope as you.

Yes.
<sigh>
How bloody obnoxious of the government of our country to involve us in wars with countries we have absolutely no beef with ... then lock up the people fleeing the horror we've imposed on them.
The hypocrisy is galling.
A pox on both our major political parties.

So, just in case you have any opinion on the matter, hinge ...
How do you foresee Mark Arbib & his right wing faction's influence on the future of the Australian Labor Party? (Which is no doubt tearing itself to bits in the light of the recent Wikileaks)
What future do you see for the ALP if they retain their controlling influence?

But perhaps that's an unfair question, just before Christmas?
I give you permission to pass. Wink


hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 06:41 am
@msolga,
Quote:
Compared to Laurie we are all pygmies.


Oh, olgs, you expect to much of me - it's a fat joke - I saw him at the Lobby restaurant in in 1994 at the lovely BSM's graduation lunch and his arse was eating a chair.

The right will cast off Arbib and Bitar and roll on. It used to be the Irish Catholics, now it's the middle class middle eastern immigrants. It's hard not to see it as a ticket to power for whoever is cluey enough to manipulate it. It's probably increasingly irrelevant unless it can reinvent itself after the next NSW election fiasco.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:06 am
@hingehead,
Oh I get it now.
(Jeez I'm slow today!)
Well most people would be considered pygmies compared to Laurie, wouldn't they? Wink

As for Arbib. And his cronies.
I wish they would just disappear.
I think Julia is looking shaky as a result of her connection with them, though ... I suspect some of the dirt will stick.

I wonder how many new members the Greens gained this week?


Leunig's completely dispassionate & unbiased comment on Julian Assange, published in the AGE. :


http://images.theage.com.au/2010/12/10/2088966/leunig10cod-620x0.jpg
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:13 am
@msolga,
Tandberg, also in the AGE:

http://images.theage.com.au/2010/12/09/2088281/svLETTERS_DEC10-420x0.jpg
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hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:14 am
@msolga,
Deeply offended on behalf of Julian - He's a Townsville boy - and we shouldn't forget how formative living in the Joh Bjelke Petersen Police State was.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:23 am
@hingehead,
Getcha hands of him, hinge!
He's mine & Melbourne's! Razz Laughing

Yup, point taken though, about Queensland being a great education & training ground for future endeavors.
I'd forgotten all about Joh.
Did you have to go & remind me?
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:30 am
Julia & Mark Arbib (our US embassy "contact" in Canberra).
Just published in today's AGE:

http://images.theage.com.au/2010/12/10/2090266/svLETTERS_DEC11-420x0.jpg
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hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:32 am
@msolga,
I'm reading Andrew Stafford's 'Pig City' - it's an education. We should never forget what happened in Queensland when a few well-meaning idiots secured power and divested themselves of responsibility. I don't think us southerners can imagine what a stifling environment that would be to grow up in. The Whitlam era was a turning point for how Oz saw itself, but it never got to Queensland.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:39 am
@hingehead,
Ah, I remember following Joh's charming antics, from a long, long away away, courtesy of the Digger & Nation Review. (remember independent, alternative newspaper, anyone? RIP)

Wasn't it illegal (there's that word again! Wink ) to hold demonstrations in Queensland for a while there?
hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:42 am
@msolga,
I think, and remember I'm actually from NSW, that three people meeting in one spot was illegal, if the police said it was.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:43 am
@msolga,
Moondoggy's article on "local" boy Assange from some 4 or 5 months ago was interesting.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:45 am
@hingehead,
Yes, something like that. Incredible times in Brisbane, they must have been.

But he certainly was a gift from the gods for cartoonists!


http://www.nicholsoncartoons.com.au/cartoons/new/2005-04-28%20Joh%20Bjelke%20Petersen%20and%20the%20media%20450.JPG
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:46 am
@ehBeth,
Yes, ehBeth?
You wouldn't happen to remember on which thread?
I somehow missed it.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 07:56 am
I was wondering where Julia had gotten to.
She's been very quiet, the past couple of says, since her "illegal" comment about Julian Assange.
But there she was, at Federation Square in Melbourne this afternoon ... with Oprah ... & thousands of screaming women! Goodness me! Shocked


http://images.smh.com.au/2010/12/10/2090416/Oprah%20and%20Gillard-420x0.jpg

Quote:
SHE came, we saw and everyone screamed their lungs out. Even Oprah Winfrey. Standing on the tiny stage at Federation Square in Melbourne in front of 10,000 cheering fans, the Queen of Dreams told us, in a deep, strong voice: ''I've never seen a welcome like this in my life. Never like this IN MY LIFE. IN MY LIFE. IN MY WHOLE LIFE.''


http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/people/o-my-god-faithful-flock-to-worship-australias-new-idol-20101210-18sww.html
hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 08:07 am
@msolga,
Did you miss the 'Charlies Angels' shoot with Bono?
 

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