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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 05:37 pm
@msolga,
http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/03/3424589/Tandberg-Carbon-3-July-600x400.gif
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 07:18 pm
@msolga,
OK, this is how I understand the respective positions of the two major parties. In the simplest possible language I can muster: :

Labor's legislation targets the big polluters. They will pay a levy, or "tax", proportional to the amount of pollution they cause. To encourage them to pollute less & to invest in cleaner technologies for the future.

The Lib's, as explained (?) in their "direct action plan" (?) would pay the industrial polluters (from our taxes) to reduce their carbon emissions, to encourage them to clean up their act. The Libs also say they will plant a lot of trees, for cleaner air.

Labor would compensate low/er income earners from the (inevitable) passed-on costs to businesses of investing in cleaner technologies. Those people earning under $80k would be compensated with tax cuts & also the allowance increases to those on welfare & pensions. Those earning less than $18k pa (I think that's correct) will be exempt from paying any income tax at all.

The Lib's, on the other hand, as best I understand it, are offering no compensation to lower income earners. Further, plan to fund their "incentives" to industry (to clean up its act) while abolishing the mining tax (the nation's biggest earners) & also abolishing Labor's carbon "tax", if they gain office in 2013. While compensating for the loss of revenue to government through budget "savings". Which will include sever cuts to public sector spending.
.... which would leave tax payers, especially low income earners, far worse off than under Labor, as I see things ... not only would the poorest in our community be paying through their taxes to the biggest polluters, but there would also be reduced government revenue available, for essential services like education, health, public transport, etc.....

I would really like to see a lot more detail about the LNP's so-called "action plan" & also a lot more information about how a future LNP government might fund its programs (including the proposed tax cuts!) while removing the mining tax from the equation .....
It just doesn't add up.

Meanwhile Abbott is charging around the country attempting to scare the wits out of the population (the sky will surely fall in!) as a result of the carbon tax!

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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 07:43 pm
@msolga,
Here we go!
Not at all surprising ...
Let's see what Tony Abbott's response is to this sort of dishonesty.
Blame the "carbon "tax" for opportunism.
How convenient!

I really like Brumby's products but they are now permanently off my shopping options.
Apologies to my local Brumbys staff (who are great!) , it's not your fault.

And let's just hope the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission keeps doing its job properly!

Quote:
Brumby's under fire over 'blame carbon tax' memo
By chief political correspondent Simon Cullen
Posted July 04, 2012 11:09:01/ABC News


http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4109418-3x2-700x467.jpg

Memo sent to Brumby's stores. Photo: 'Let the carbon tax take the blame': part of the memo sent to Brumby's stores (ABC News)
Related Story: Grocery prices unchanged under carbon tax
Related Story: Emerson defends Whyalla wipeout stunt
Map: Australia

One of Australia's largest bakery chains, Brumby's, is under fire for an internal memo that suggests franchisees increase their prices and "let the carbon tax take the blame".

In the memo, Brumby's managing director Deane Priest says there are some simple things franchisees can do to find extra sales.

"We are doing an RRP (recommended retail price) review at present which is projected to be in line with CPI (Consumer Price Index), but take the opportunity to make some moves in June and July," Mr Priest wrote in the June edition of Backmix - an internal publication.

"Let the carbon tax take the blame, after all, your costs will be going up due to it."

The memo, which was obtained by the West Australian Newspaper and provided to the ABC, has prompted action by the competition watchdog.


In a statement, the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission says it will be making direct enquires with Brumby's in light of the document.

"The ACCC would be concerned if any franchisor encouraged or induced its franchisees to make misleading price claims about the impact of the carbon price," it said.

"Businesses are entitled to increase their prices as they see fit.

"It is business as usual, so long as any claims or representations made about the impact of the carbon price are truthful and have a reasonable basis," the ACCC said.

The ABC has tried to contact Brumby's for a response.

The Government has previously warned businesses of making misleading claims about the effects of the carbon tax, saying they risk fines of up to $1.1 million.

The ACCC has set up a hotline for people to report concerns relating to carbon tax pricing.
....<cont>


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-04/brumbys-under-fire-over-carbon-tax-memo/4109424

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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 10:35 pm
Here's Monday night's Q&A, for anyone who's interested & missed it.
(yes, the episode in which Simon Sheikh fainted.):

Quote:
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/img/panel_stil_m2088213.jpg

Q&A: Monday, 2 July 2012
After The Carbon Tax

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/
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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 03:40 am
@msolga,
http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/04/3428884/pope-July-5-600x400.jpg

Brumby's apologises for carbon tax memo:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-04/brumbys-under-fire-over-carbon-tax-memo/4109424

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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 03:48 am
Interesting survey results.

I wonder where this leaves Abbott's "blood pledge"?

Quote:
Carbon pricing here for long term, say emitters
Adam Morton
July 5, 2012/the AGE


http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/04/3428975/carbon-generic-420x0.jpg
Frank Jotzo: 'An overwhelming majority think there will be a carbon price in the medium-to-long term.' Photo: Wayne Taylor

EVEN if the carbon price is repealed, a majority of big greenhouse gas emitters and climate change experts believe Australia will have a scheme in the long run, a survey has found.

The latest study of expectations about climate change laws, by the Australian National University's Crawford School of Public Policy, found 40 per cent of liable companies, carbon financiers and scheme experts believed they would be repealed by 2016.

Among big emitters, 53 per cent thought they would be repealed. But only 21 per cent of all those who responded to the survey thought there would not be a scheme in 2020.

''An overwhelming majority think there will be a carbon price in the medium-to-long term, but more than half the experts from liable entities think the legislation will be repealed along the way,'' said economist Frank Jotzo, the author of a report on the survey. ''It really puts the spotlight back on to the uncertainty that is dominating the area.''

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has given a ''blood pledge'' to repeal the carbon price if elected, either with the support of a defeated Labor Party or after a double dissolution election over the issue.

The survey received 76 responses from big emitters, the carbon finance and investment sector and other experts. Dr Jotzo said he did not claim the survey was representative of all companies liable for the tax, but the respondents were responsible for more than half the emissions covered by the scheme.

Big emitters paying the $23-a-tonne tax were twice as likely to believe the scheme would be repealed as financiers and investors - 53 per cent as opposed to 26 per cent. ....<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/environment/carbon-pricing-here-for-long-term-say-emitters-20120704-21hm2.html

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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 7 Jul, 2012 12:56 am
Malcolm Turnbull on gay marriage & voting rights of LNP parliamentarians ....

Quote:
Turnbull's gay marriage swipe
July 7, 2012 /the AGE
Michelle Grattan


http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/06/3435970/1deb_3_turnbull-20120706234534406940-200x0.jpg
Malcolm Turnbull has hit out at the 'hypocrisy' of the institution's defenders. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

MALCOLM Turnbull has described those who claim legalising gay marriage would undermine the institution as ''dripping with the worst sort of hypocrisy'', in a speech defying the Coalition's opposition to changing the law.

Mr Turnbull, a frontbencher who cannot vote for gay marriage because of Tony Abbott's refusal to give Liberals a conscience vote, said the ''deepest pools'' of this hypocrisy were all too often found ''among the most sanctimonious''.


''Let us be honest with each other. The threat to marriage is not the gays. It is a lack of loving commitment - whether it is found in the form of neglect, indifference, cruelty or adultery, to name just a few manifestations of the loveless desert in which too many marriages come to grief.''

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/06/3435699/Turnbull_353-200x0.jpg
Illustration: Ron Tandberg

Delivering the Michael Kirby Lecture last night, Mr Turnbull said if Liberal frontbenchers had a free vote, he would support the private members' legislation voted on later this year.

In what could be construed as encouraging backbenchers to do so, he noted that ordinary Liberal MPs were not expelled if they crossed the floor, ''so in that sense every vote is a conscience vote''.

But ''because the leadership are not permitting a free vote, shadow cabinet ministers are bound to vote in accordance with the collective decision''. If they wanted to cross the floor, they would have to resign from the shadow ministry ''and I do not propose to do that''.

Mr Turnbull offered a swingeing demolition of the case against gay marriage - and also pointedly said that previously Liberals had been given a conscience vote on marriage issues.

''I am utterly unpersuaded by the proposition that my marriage to Lucy, or indeed any marriage, is undermined by two gay men or two lesbians setting up house down the road - whether it is called a marriage or not,'' he said.

''Do the bishops seriously imagine that legalising gay marriage will result in thousands of parties to heterosexual marriages suddenly deciding to get divorced so they can marry a person of the same sex?'' he said....<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/turnbulls-gay-marriage-swipe-20120706-21mou.html

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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 11 Jul, 2012 07:41 pm
@msolga,
From Tandberg today:

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/11/3447639/DB-20120711200650919377-300x0.jpg
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Bootlace
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jul, 2012 01:51 pm
The "MYTH" about "Compensation " is the same "MYTH" Howard conned the public with in regard to the GST.

The claw back has started already in QLD it seems.
This from the Courier Mail ................
Quote:

Battlers set to lose carbon compo as Queensland Government tightens belt
by: Anna Caldwell, Koren Helbig
From: The Courier-Mail
July 09, 2012 12:00AM
CARBON tax pain looks set to deepen, with the State Government expecting to claw back compensation payments and hike public housing rents for some of Queensland's poorest families.
State Minister for Housing Bruce Flegg (http://lnp.org.au/bruce-flegg) told The Courier-Mail it was "expected" carbon tax compensation payments paid to pensioners would be included in the assessable income of public housing tenants.
All state Labor governments, plus the West Australian conservative state government, have agreed to exempt carbon tax compensation from their rental calculations.
But the Queensland Government (http://www.qld.gov.au/) believes it will incur additional costs to run social housing because of the carbon tax and so has a case to pass the costs on to tenants.
The Courier-Mail reported last month how nursing homes were also stinging pensioners with a hike on fees for aged care because of the tax.
The Federal Government (http://australia.gov.au/) is giving money to help 36,000 Queensland pensioners and 16,000 families who live in public housing compensate for the carbon tax, which the State Government "expects" to include in rental calculations.
Tenants pay 25 per cent of their income as rent.
Deputy Prime Minister Wayne Swan (http://www.swanmp.org/) said it would be "despicable" for Premier Campbell Newman (http://lnp.org.au/campbell-newman) to take pensioners' money.
"Campbell Newman says he can afford to build new ministerial offices for him and his ministers but now he's left the door open to taking money from
pensioners to pay for it," Mr Swan said.
hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jul, 2012 03:01 pm
@Bootlace,
Can't wait for the ACCC to investigate the Qld govt - love to see the justification for a carbon tax impact on public housing that exceeds 1%
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jul, 2012 11:23 pm
@hingehead,
Yes that'd be very interesting to see!

Welcome back, hinge. Very good to see you here again! Smile

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/13/3454766/Spooner_729-420x0.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 13 Jul, 2012 11:26 pm
Sharpe on Abbott's policy of towing back the boats to Indonesia.

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/08/3438592/mp-gal-sharpe-20120708191106530662-600x400.jpg
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Bootlace
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 02:38 pm
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

Can't wait for the ACCC to investigate the Qld govt - love to see the justification for a carbon tax impact on public housing that exceeds 1%


The Queensland government appears to have become a dictatorship.
Laws are rushed through bypassing any committees . The rot has already started with the LNP treasurer going through the books of government owned businesses. How can any member of the public go through the confidential records of a government concern ? The gestapo arm of the dictator in action.
Newman is quoted as saying he has " had a lot of fun" in his first 100 days, well, sacking thousands of public servants could hardly be classed as fun by any normal human being.
Quote:

Campbell Newman bypasses review committee for legislation relating to election promises
by: Steven Wardill
From: The Courier-Mail
May 14, 2012 3:15PM
CAMPBELL Newman will trash State Parliament's committee system by not referring any legislation related to the LNP's election commitments.
The Queensland Premier today insisted his party's policies were detailed and clear and did not need to be scrutinised by Parliament's bipartisan committees.
Mr Newman said his "intent" was to allow other legislation unrelated to his election commitments to be reviewed.
"We went to the big committee," the Premier said, referring to the recent election.
The controversial move trashes the committee system established in a bipartisan fashion before the last election.
It was supposed to review all legislation before being passed, in an effort to allow the Parliament to act in its proper fashion as a check-and-balance
mechanism on executive power.
LNP treasurer Barry O'Sullivan in secret probe of GoPrint
by: Steven Wardill
From: The Courier-Mail
July 11, 2012 12:00AM
Source: The Courier-Mail
CONTROVERSIAL Liberal National Party heavyweight Barry O'Sullivan was secretly sent in to review the books of government publisher GoPrint.
The Courier-Mail can reveal the LNP treasurer was recently given a lengthy meeting with GoPrint boss Scott Albury despite having no formal position in the Newman Government.
The troubled organisation was so nervous about Mr OSullivan's visit that workers were told to slow down in the days before so the factory floor was busy in case the LNP treasurer wanted a tour.
The decision by Public Works Minister Bruce Flegg to send in a party official to review the books of a government business unit has been branded "totally inappropriate" by the Opposition.
Mr O'Sullivan came to prominence last year when The Courier-Mail revealed a recording of him grilling an LNP candidate during an expletive-laden two-hour tirade.
Sources said GoPrint employees were also ordered to take down a union flag before Mr O'Sullivan arrived.
The unofficial review of the 150-year-old business indicates the Newman Government is considering an assets firesale, recommended in the interim
Commission of Audit into the state's finances.
Mr O'Sullivan declined to comment.
A spokesman for Dr Flegg conceded Mr O'Sullivan had no direct knowledge of the printing industry but said he was a "highly appropriate" choice given his business experience.
"To my knowledge he is not involved in the printing industry," he said.
Dr Flegg's spokesman said a report was written but was not available as it was yet to be considered by Cabinet.
He had no knowledge of the go-slow order but described it as a "ridiculous" approach.
Opposition Leader Annastacia Palaszczuk said Premier Campbell Newman must explain why an LNP heavyweight was given access to GoPrint's accounts.
"It is totally inappropriate for the LNP treasurer to be running his eye over a taxpayer-owned business unit," Ms Palaszczuk said.
"The Premier needs to explain on what basis Mr O'Sullivan made his visit and whether he agrees it was appropriate for him to go there."
It is not the first time the printer has been in the middle of a political power struggle.
In 1917, prime minister Billy Hughes sent in federal troops to raid the printer after premier T.J. Ryan promised to distribute 50,000 copies of his speech
opposing conscription.


The "JOH" era is returning and it may be bigger and better than before.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 14 Jul, 2012 04:59 pm
@Bootlace,
I've been out of the country for more than two months and the LNP were still settling in. Right now I'm thinking the ALP's best chance in winning the next federal election is the performance of the three new east coast state govts. Regardless, I expect a massively reduced majority, if not a loss, for them at the next election, ala Borbidge's last conservative state govt here.

The insanity of this cut struck me:

Quote:
If you heard about a program that was saving lives and dollars, while helping some of the most traumatised women in our society to heal and recover, you'd want to keep it running - right? With a budget of just $120,000 per year, the groundbreaking support program for women in prison, Sisters Inside, has been doing just that. Sisters Inside has been breaking the cycle of crime, poverty, trauma and recidivism.

The program is inexpensive to run, just $120,000 per year - far cheaper than the cost of keeping prisoners behind bars. It costs taxpayers $70,000 per person each year to keep a prisoner behind bars. Sisters Inside has already helped 188 women this year alone. Why would the incoming Newman Government want to cut a program that starts saving taxpayers money once it keeps just two women from re-offending, and exponentially more from there?

Stop the Queensland government from kicking an own goal, add your name to the grassroots CommunityRun campaign to save Sisters Inside: http://www.communityrun.org/petitions/save-sisters-inside?source=getup

$120,000 is about the salary of one mid-level bureaucrat or politician. Yet on this extremely modest budget Sisters Inside currently provide nine life-changing programs – ranging from sexual assault counselling to reunification for mothers and children. And for every mother who turns her life around, she also turns around the lives of her children, preventing untold suffering and huge costs to our community for years to come.

Sisters Inside is the kind of program we should be trying to learn from and replicate, not axe. That's why right now program founder Debbie Kilroy has a petition on our new CommunityRun platform, which she plans to deliver at a face-to-face meeting with Minister Davis in the coming days. Back Debbie and show your support for this program that's saving money and lives inside Queensland: http://www.communityrun.org/petitions/save-sisters-inside?source=getup

Thank you for speaking out,

The GetUp Team.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2012 06:01 pm
@Bootlace,
Quote:
The "MYTH" about "Compensation " is the same "MYTH" Howard conned the public with in regard to the GST.

Well I don't know that compensation is a "myth". It certainly isn't meant to be .... it sounds more like blatant opportunism by your state government & LNP scare mongering to me.

What next?
The carbon tax will make it more expensive to mow your lawn? Rolling Eyes
The ACC is going to be very busy! I hope it's up to the task.

A letter from a reader in today's AGE:

Quote:
Playing with the truth

IN MY letterbox yesterday, I found a flyer about the carbon tax's adverse effects on healthcare, with a picture of a sick child and worried parents. A minute subscript attributed it to David Davis MLC, of the Liberal Party. I am a GP - it surprised me a little, so I read on, and was even more surprised to learn that: ''A visit to the GP, whose costs will rise, can only get more expensive.''
If that isn't an outright lie, it's certainly stretching the truth. The carbon tax will have a minuscule effect on the costs of running a clinic, certainly not enough to consider raising fees.
The other assertions were equally dodgy: attributing future rises in health insurance premiums to the carbon tax; implying that Victorian public hospitals face a $13 million tax bill because of it, but fudging the distinction between carbon tax and total tax.
I understand the Liberals are keen to gain power at any cost, but playing loose with the truth does not inspire confidence in their fitness to govern.

Dr Rod Anderson, Sandringham


http://www.theage.com.au/national/letters/doctors-must-limit-supply-20120715-22421.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2012 06:22 pm
http://images.theage.com.au/2012/07/15/3458003/art729-pettytoon1607-420x0.jpg

Meanwhile, in Victoria:

Quote:
In the upcoming by-election, Labor has decided to preference Family First ahead of the Greens.

Greens say voters won't be fazed by Labor rift:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-15/voters-won27t-be-distracted-by-labor-rift2c-says-greens/4131574?section=vic

Because:

Quote:
In Victoria, the two parties are now in direct competition, going head to head in a by-election for the prized state seat of Melbourne, held by Labor for more than a century.

Greens tipped to take Melbourne from Labor:
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3544933.htm

Jeez, don't they ever learn? Sad Neutral

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hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2012 07:08 pm
@msolga,
Hi Olgs

Glad your still posting oz pol cartoons. Marieke Hardy tweeted that Victoria was happy to take Queenslanders escaping from a 'fascist' govt - I'm not sure Baillieu is that much better than Newman. Hitler v Mussolini was my comment.

I'm at a loss about the ALP burning bridges re the greens. I can understand their trepidation with the LNP chewing at their right wing numbers, and the left wing shifting to the greens, but if they say your with us or agin us, I'll stop voting ALP in reps and Green in the Senate, and just vote Green.

Why does it seem they never get the tenor of anything right any more?
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2012 08:36 pm
@hingehead,
Hi there hinge

Yeah, I know ... pretty dismal stuff. Sad

Quote:
Glad your still posting oz pol cartoons. Marieke Hardy tweeted that Victoria was happy to take Queenslanders escaping from a 'fascist' govt - I'm not sure Baillieu is that much better than Newman. Hitler v Mussolini was my comment.

Ha.
You're not far from wrong there!
In fact the Victorian Libs might even be worse than their Queensland counterparts (not that they've had sufficient time in power to get into full swing yet!) ... I can't bring myself to go into all the details, too depressing, just trust me on this. Let's just say that the Nationals appear to be running the state a lot of the time. Sigh.
On the credit side, Baillieu won the last Victorian election by a very slim majority & his government is thoroughly on the nose with many Victorians now ... so with a bit of luck (& some common sense from Victorian Labor!) it may just end up being a one term government. Seriously.
Fingers crossed!

Quote:
I'm at a loss about the ALP burning bridges re the greens. ...

I'm hoping the bridges aren't totally burned.
The attacks appear to be coming from the right of the ALP ... largely from NSW. (No surprises there.)

The attacks on the Greens started while you were away. (I don't know how much you followed Oz politics at the time. Wouldn't blame you at all if you blocked it all out! Wink ) ... after the "Oakeshott debate" on aslym seekers, following more deaths at sea.
The Greens were widely perceived (in the media & quite a few in the ALP) as being "too intransigent", too "pure", too inflexible on insisting on onshore processing as the only acceptable option, when Labor & quite a few independents were looking for a workable compromise to break the deadlock between Labor & the Liberals on the issue. Anyway, to cut a long, harrowing story short, the independents/Labor won the debate in the lower house, but were defeated in the Senate ... because the Greens voted with the LNP. Which meant that the imperfect compromise resolution was lost (it was never going to be perfect, but is a perfect position possible in Oz right now?) .... anyway, as a result, Abbott has continued on from exactly from where he left off before . The intense pressure on him to compromise at the time was lost. Stalemate again. Neutral

It was all pretty harrowing at the time , I can tell you!

Quote:
...I can understand their trepidation with the LNP chewing at their right wing numbers, and the left wing shifting to the greens, but if they say your with us or agin us, I'll stop voting ALP in reps and Green in the Senate, and just vote Green.

Why does it seem they never get the tenor of anything right any more?

Sigh.
Because, as a minority government, which has been under extremely intense pressure from the start, they've become way too pragmatic in trying to appeal to the voters? And have ended up not standing for anything like what Labor should stand for?
And, with the next election looming, too much internal fighting about what's the best way to go from here? Neutral

My thinking is that Labor's best bet is to stand up for the policies & values it actually believes in for the rest of its term, in a UNITED way ..... & focus on exposing what Abbott's policies actually mean for ordinary people. I don't know that this would win Labor the next election, but it would give them a lot more credibility with the voters.
It's futile to blame the Greens for its current woes, at this point Labor's best bet is to come out fighting as hard as it can for it's own policies ... which are streets ahead of the wishy-washy, unfunded LNP alternative.
They will be letting us all down if they don't. The alternative is unthinkable.

Sorry this has been such a long response, hinge.
I just want them to get their bloody act together!
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2012 08:05 pm
By-election day in the state seat of Melbourne today:
Quote:
Polling booths have opened in the Melbourne by-election as Labor and the Greens go head-to-head in the inner-city seat.

It is a battle between Labor candidate Jennifer Kanis and Cathy Oke from the Greens.

Polling opens in Melbourne by-election:
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/polling-opens-in-melbourne-byelection-20120721-22ge9.html

I don't feel nearly as confident about the outcome as this. (A lot of anti-Greens publicity in the local media this week):

Quote:
The polls tip the Greens to win the Melbourne by-election later this month, but with ****-sheets, Labor backflips and preference deal battles abounding, there's plenty to watch, writes Adam Brereton


The aspect of this by-election I find most interesting is the possiblity of this. (Go Greens! Smile ):

Quote:
The by-election is further complicated by the possibility of the Greens holding the balance of power in the lower house, at least until the 2014 general election. This would depend on the outcome of investigations against Frankston Liberal MP Geoff Shaw, who only holds his seat by a 2 per cent margin and is vulnerable for a Labor grab if made to resign.

That scenario means Greens claims of holding the government to account actually have some traction ....


Will The Greens Win Melbourne?
http://newmatilda.com/2012/07/04/will-greens-win-melbourne

I was a lot more sympathetic toward Labor prior to the Family First preference deal. Stupid. Have they learnt nothing from recent history?They deserve to lose the seat for that!
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 20 Jul, 2012 08:25 pm
Another Rudd enters politics.
This is what he had to say about his much better-known brother:

Quote:
''A leopard,'' said Greg Rudd of his younger brother Kevin, ''doesn't change his spots.''

Would-be independent Queensland senator Greg Rudd was musing on the question of whether his brother would take revenge on those who removed him from the prime ministership if, as Greg expects, he is reinstalled in the top job.

He also thinks:
Quote:
Greg Rudd believes Kevin will probably replace Julia Gillard by February at the latest.

Sibling rivalry: Greg Rudd on Kevin:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/sibling-rivalry-greg-rudd-on-kevin-20120718-22aql.html

Can't see it myself and would consider it as a backward development if it did happen.
But (sigh) the speculators will keep speculating, clutching at straws, won't they?

As for Joel Fizgibbon's performance on Q&A on Monday.
What a guy to have on your team!
Despicable sneaky little snake in the grass. Neutral
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