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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2011 02:37 pm
@msolga,
http://libertypub.com/GIFfiles/chimp%20laughing.gif
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hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2011 04:09 pm
@msolga,
That cartoonist is a disgrace olgs - I can clearly tell who all the players are and there's no caricature. Shocking!
Quote:
http://images.theage.com.au/2011/11/25/2798710/TAH_letters_LW_151011_20111125220110997508-420x0.jpg
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2011 11:04 pm
@hingehead,
Yeah, he's letting the whole (Oz cartoonist) team down! Smile

I see Spooner as more of an old school illustrator .... his drawings often accompany Fairfax (Age/SMH) articles of all sorts, not just the political ones. He's pretty good at his craft!

Here's a link to his cartoons & illustrations, if you're interested.:

http://www.theage.com.au/photogallery/opinion/john-spooner-20090716-dmsv.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2011 11:39 pm
A lengthy opinion piece published in today's AGE.

A sort of "that was the year that was" & contemplation of the year ahead in Oz politics piece, following the installation of Mr Slipper (who sounds rather like a character from Dickens to me. What a terrific name! The cartoonists are going to have a field day! ) as the speaker of the house & what this might mean in the power equation between Labor & the Libs in 2012.

Also some consideration about the challenges facing both major parties in the year ahead. A reasonably even-handed article, I think.

Amazing, isn't it? Gillard's Labor has only held office for a bit over 12 months. What a long, hard, grueling year it's been for Labor .... YET, despite this, look at what this government has actually achieved. Most of Labor's policy priorities have been successful, against all the odds. Say nothing of a hostile media. I sincerely doubt the Libs would have achieved nearly as much in this hung parliament situation.

Quote:
Bitter aftertaste ruins Abbott toast to future
November 26, 2011/the AGE

Opinion

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/11/25/2798815/TAH_gillardabbott_LW_151011_20111125224359858091-420x0.jpg
'The pressure is squarely on Abbott to come up with a new strategy.' Photo: Stefan Postles

IT WAS a throwaway line, but it summed up the end-game of a political strategy that was all about blasting Julia Gillard out of office, as quickly as possible. ''See you next year at The Lodge for drinks,'' a cheerful Abbott told reporters who attended the Opposition Leader's Christmas drinks at this time last year.

Whether it was achieved by wooing one of the independents who helped Gillard form minority government, or blasting out a Labor MP accused of behaving badly, or fuelling speculation of an imminent challenge to Gillard by Kevin Rudd, didn't matter.

Abbott was one vote away from the prime ministership and - courtesy of his relentless assault on Gillard's integrity and Labor's ineptness - a country mile ahead in the polls. His was a ''government-in-waiting'', and it all made for a very disciplined party room.

A year on, Abbott's Coalition is still mightily ascendant in the polls, but the game has changed. The coup that delivered the speakership to the disaffected Peter Slipper has transformed this contest, giving Gillard a two-seat buffer and dramatically increasing the odds that the Parliament will run full term.

That means Gillard has a better chance of building a recovery from the foundations of recent weeks. It certainly means the pressure is squarely on Abbott to come up with a new strategy in the months ahead. No wonder he is crying foul.

As Abbott describes it, the departure of the much-respected Harry Jenkins, and his replacement by Slipper, is just another ''squalid manoeuvre'' from Gillard's Machiavellian playbook. The PM deployed the ''Sussex Street death squads'' of Labor's Sydney machine to dispatch a good, decent and loyal man for the sole purpose of shoring up her own position. ....<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/bitter-aftertaste-ruins-abbott-toast-to-future-20111125-1nz89.html

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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2011 11:48 pm
@msolga,
Quite a year indeed. Phew.r
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2011 11:48 pm
@msolga,
Today's Moir:

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/11/25/2796379/Moirfriday-620x0.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2011 11:53 pm
@dlowan,
Yes, hasn't it been, Deb?
What are you thoughts after 1/3rd of Labor's term in office?
Optimistic about 2o12 & on?
(I'm feeling decidedly more comfortable about Labor defeating "the Abbott strategy" at this point.)
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 12:11 am
One last post.
I just received an email from GetUp! about the struggle to implement gay marriage rights in Oz law.

I watched the GetUp! video & I confess I became a bit weepy at the end. How absolutely right!

(Not that I needed any convincing.)

It's just that I'm a bit of a wuss & become quite moved, emotionally, when I see such an important issue presented in such a basic, human way. Smile

Come on, Julia! A bit of enlightened leadership would go such a long way within the ALP!

http://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/marriage-equality/love-story/watch-the-video?t=dXNlcmlkPTc1NTE4NyxlbWFpbGlkPTQ4Mg%3D%3D

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Eorl
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 05:44 am
@msolga,
I still say she can't afford to be for it. She's an unmarried atheist already, not to mention (gasp) female. An open attack on the churches she has gone out of her way to avoid. She needs for others to make it happen I think. Which of course it must eventually. Shame though. Can't imagine she really is personally against it.
dlowan
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 08:02 am
@Eorl,
I have to agree. It's extremely disappointing though. I also assume it'd bugger up some sort deal with the Independents.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 08:23 am
@dlowan,
But not with the greens.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 08:23 am
Why does everyone assume a conscience vote would see it defeated?
msolga
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 10:35 pm
@hingehead,
Good question, hinge.
It seems to be the accepted collective wisdom that a conscience vote will automatically defeat the bill, as opposed to gay marriage rights being ALP official policy.
But I'd imagine that the Libs & the NP would vote "no" as a bloc ... with maybe a very small handful of dissenters crossing the floor. That would probably ensure it was defeated.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 10:51 pm
@Eorl,
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I still say she can't afford to be for it. She's an unmarried atheist already, not to mention (gasp) female. An open attack on the churches she has gone out of her way to avoid. She needs for others to make it happen I think. Which of course it must eventually. Shame though. Can't imagine she really is personally against it.

I do understand what you're saying Eorl, but perhaps if she hadn't been so publicly vocal in opposing gay marriage?
Apart from Penny Wong, I haven't seem much (any?) public comment from any of the other Labor heavies. I would love to see the likes of Bill Shorten, or Wayne Swan, etc, come out strongly in support of gay marriage rights. Now wouldn't that be something? Smile

This is going to be a very interesting ALP conference next weekend!

Oh & I just received a GetUp! email update .... apparently their gay marriage video is their most watched (online) ever!

www.getup.org.au/lovestory

They're now in the process of booking ad spots during prominent national prime-time television for this week .

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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2011 01:17 am
@msolga,
http://www.news.com.au/national/asylum-failure-means-freedom/story-e6frfkvr-1226206660207


I thought I'd dreamed this....but it seems to be true!

Has sense and decency broken out re asylum seekers?!


Please!!!!!!
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2011 07:53 pm
@dlowan,
Nope, you didn't dream it, Deb.

It's true.

It was reported on the ABC & as we all know, Aunty never lies. Wink

(Amazing what that extra Labor vote, courtesy of Mr Slipper, can do!)

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Asylum seekers to be released from detention
Updated November 25, 2011 20:49:59/ABC news

The Federal Government will start using bridging visas to process asylum seekers in the community in the coming days.

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen says those granted the visas have undergone initial checks and security clearances and will live with family or friends while their requests for asylum are processed.

The new rules will not allow asylum seekers to access Centrelink services but they will be allowed to work. ...<cont>


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-25/government-to-issue-bridging-visas/3694894

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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2011 08:00 pm
@msolga,
... & speaking of Mr Slipper (love that name! Razz ) .... Tony Abbott's moral outrage, etc, etc ...

A couple of good letters to the editor in today's Age:

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Rats in all ranks

TONY Abbott's hysterical reaction to the Peter Slipper deal must make people wonder what sort of Liberal Party he thinks he's in. It was the Liberals who induced Mal Colston to rat on Labor, by making him deputy president of the Senate, so they could get their sale of Telstra legalised. Abbott was a minister in that government - yet he never uttered a word of disapproval.

We can expect a stream of anti-Slipper stories to be fed to the media. Back when he was a Liberal, we'll be told, he rorted his travel allowances, he drank and he did something embarrassing in his office that was recorded on a videotape.

Yet when he was a Liberal, the party was quite comfortable about these things. Indeed, the Liberals were glad to welcome Slipper into their ranks when he ratted on the Nationals.

Grant Agnew, Coopers Plains, Queensland


Usual stunts

TONY Abbott asks us to believe he wouldn't have done what the government has done - electing a Speaker to suit the Coalition. This is pure humbug. He has said he would have done anything to get the support of the independents after the election, and asked us not to believe anything he said ''unless it was written down''. We also have the spectacle of his ''blood oath'' pledge to reverse the carbon tax. The government can now focus on managing the economy while he indulges in his usual stunts.

Jeanne Hart, Maryborough


http://www.theage.com.au/national/letters/adopt-strict-liability-to-improve-safety-20111127-1o1g6.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2011 08:23 pm
One last post ...

Kevin's opinion piece in today's AGE

A few thoughts..

While I basically agree with much of what he's saying....

First, perhaps it would have been more appropriate to deliver this message at the ALP conference ... especially since Julia & the gang have reclaimed a bit of ground at the end of the parliamentary year? Very interesting timing, Kevin.

Secondly, it seems a wee bit rich for Kevin to be extolling the virtues of democratic participation in the ALP ... given that he appeared to have had extreme difficulty even consulting his own cabinet colleagues (say nothing of the ALP membership!) when he was PM. Wink

Oh & I love Dyson's cartoon. St Kevin's sermon from the mount. Very funny.

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The Labor Party is broken. Here's how to start fixing it
Kevin Rudd
November 28, 2011


Opinion

Factional powerplays are a turn-off. It's time the rank and file reclaimed the ALP.

A genuine public contest of ideas is fundamental to the continuing viability of the Labor Party — its capacity to adapt to the challenges of the future. Open debate allows the sunshine in. Closed doors, driven by factional self-interest, do not. ...<cont>

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/11/27/2801006/ipad-art-wide-DYSON-420x0.jpg
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http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/the-labor-party-is-broken-heres-how-to-start-fixing-it-20111127-1o19h.html

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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2011 08:29 pm
@msolga,
Today's Petty:

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/11/28/2801777/petty6-620x0.jpg

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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2011 08:31 pm
@msolga,
Moir:

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/11/27/2800799/Moir-600x400.jpg
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