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what comes first?the chicken or the egg?

 
 
Reply Sun 13 Jun, 2010 07:19 pm
it is simple.
 
DrDick
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jun, 2010 07:28 pm
@4everfaded,
the chicken
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HexHammer
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jun, 2010 07:43 pm
@4everfaded,
4everfaded wrote:

it is simple.
No it's not, spontanious mutations can happen everywhere in the process, making the 99.999999999999999% chicken into a 100% modern chicken.
..so it roughly comes down to zygots or sponatnious mutations. (thought there are also other processes and mechanics that can change DNA)
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jun, 2010 07:49 pm
The chicken is the eggs way of making more eggs.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 13 Jun, 2010 09:00 pm
@4everfaded,
The egg. Chicken evolved from birds who laid eggs, but who weren't chicken. Therefore, at some point in evolutionary time, a non-chicken must have laid the egg that the first chicken hatched out of. You're right—this is easy.
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2010 07:35 am
I am going to have an each way bet and say the simplest came first.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2010 07:36 am
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:

The egg. Chicken evolved from birds who laid eggs, but who weren't chicken. Therefore, at some point in evolutionary time, a non-chicken must have laid the egg that the first chicken hatched out of. You're right—this is easy.

I keep trying to tell people that exact same thing, but they never seem to understand.

Edit: "But, but, but... it's not a chicken egg!"
failures art
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2010 07:39 am
Beat me to the punch Thomas...

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boomerang
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2010 08:36 am
@DrewDad,
Quote:
Edit: "But, but, but... it's not a chicken egg!"


But, but, but... if it hatched a chicken it HAD to be a chicken egg, even if it wasn't laid by a chicken.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2010 08:39 am
@boomerang,
Exactly. But try it as dinner conversation sometime.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2010 08:50 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Thomas wrote:

The egg. Chicken evolved from birds who laid eggs, but who weren't chicken. Therefore, at some point in evolutionary time, a non-chicken must have laid the egg that the first chicken hatched out of. You're right—this is easy.

I keep trying to tell people that exact same thing, but they never seem to understand.

Edit: "But, but, but... it's not a chicken egg!"


Back before birds was the egg.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2010 06:06 pm
The egg is an adaptation of birth on land, the shell being mainly to retain water . The chicken evolved hundreds of millions of years later.

On a philisophical note, which came first....the ability to (re)produce life or life ?
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Reyn
 
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Reply Mon 14 Jun, 2010 06:18 pm
@4everfaded,
4everfaded wrote:
what comes first?the chicken or the egg?

It depends who pushes in line ahead of the other and doesn't follow the etiquette of queuing up.
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millie-biggie
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jun, 2010 11:22 pm
@4everfaded,
The egg came first. It was a genetic mutation of a dinosaur egg (there is a reason that they say that chickens are dinosaur's closest living relatives), which caused the egg to form what is now known as a chicken (of course, this is before evolution took, so these weren't exactly the chickens we know today).

This is if you belive in evolution.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 27 Jun, 2010 04:32 am
@millie-biggie,
If you look into some of the mechanisms of evolution, the concept of "chickenness" would only be acquired through several layers of genetic divergence , with some characteristics possibly acquired during a chickens life on earth and before the proto chicken lays the egg. Not all of the proto chickens eggs will be full of the same level of chickenness.

The egg and the chicken are in a critical partnership of adaptation to the environment.
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MetallicGryffon
 
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Reply Sat 4 Dec, 2010 07:31 am
It took me 3yrs to figure this out, the riddle does not say its a chicken egg, just an egg so in that case im pretty sure the first egg ever made by any species, come before a modern day chicken.
HexHammer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Dec, 2010 09:00 am
@MetallicGryffon,
MetallicGryffon wrote:

It took me 3yrs to figure this out, the riddle does not say its a chicken egg, just an egg so in that case im pretty sure the first egg ever made by any species, come before a modern day chicken.
Brilliant answer if I may say.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 4 Dec, 2010 10:28 am
@Thomas,
Thomas wrote:
The egg. Chicken evolved from birds who laid eggs, but who weren't chicken.
Therefore, at some point in evolutionary time, a non-chicken must have laid the egg
that the first chicken hatched out of. You're right—this is easy.
That is the correct reasoning.





David
HexHammer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Dec, 2010 11:21 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

Thomas wrote:
The egg. Chicken evolved from birds who laid eggs, but who weren't chicken.
Therefore, at some point in evolutionary time, a non-chicken must have laid the egg
that the first chicken hatched out of. You're right—this is easy.
That is the correct reasoning.
No?
Quite ignorent reasoning, imo.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 4 Dec, 2010 12:08 pm

I 'll stand by what I said.





David
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